RE 5040 Fall 2011
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AShley Joyce
Re: Rachel Hicks/Ashley Joyce
Fri Dec 9, 2011 11:21
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Thanks everybody! Rachel has worked with this diverse population longer than I have. Coming from such a small town, it was definitely new to me. It is very interesting working with children of such a different background and culture.

  • Rachel Hicks/Ashley Joyce - koppenhaverd, Tue Nov 8 21:08
    Discuss Rachel and Ashley's ELL Language Comprehension presentation here.
    • respons to ELL Language Comprehension - Ginger Landers, Wed Dec 14 20:58
      I liked how you mentioned what the acronyms ELL, ESL and LEP stand for - it is hard to keep them all straight and different school systems use different terms. I am curious what the difference of... more
    • Procedures - Whitney Fisher, Sun Dec 11 14:16
      I really like how your procedures were so well defined. Did you find that having your interventions so organzied helped students know what was expected of them? It looked like every week consisted of ... more
    • ELL - Ruth Ann Timmons, Sun Dec 11 10:08
      Great presentation! It is really unique and I'm sure very challenging to work in a school with such a diverse population. 23 countries and 26 languages- wow! Comprehension and connections are... more
    • ELL - burchamal, Sat Dec 10 07:37
      Great presentation. I really like the organization. I am fascinated with the instruction of ELL students and the "layers" you must go through in order to reach true reading comprehension instruction. ... more
      • ELL Instruction - burchamal, Sat Dec 10 07:38
        I believe the set of standards is called WIDA- it's an excellent resource to ELL student instruction.
        • Re: ELL Instruction - Ashley Joyce, Sat Dec 10 12:17
          Thanks! :) Working with such a wide variety of ELL learners can be a challenge at times but it is so worthwhile to see their improvement. I have a student who understands English, yet he can not... more
          • Re: ELL Instruction - whitney fisher, Tue Dec 13 22:42
            What kind of support services are given to the teachers at your school (as far as language)? That has got to be overwhelming having students speaking so many languages..
    • Re: Rachel Hicks/Ashley Joyce - AShley Joyce, Fri Dec 9 11:21
      • Diverse population - Marlee Wright, Sun Dec 11 22:28
        It is interesting. I loved working with my ELL kids - one of the best experiences we had was when, as a grade level, we did "Christmas Around the World," and our class presented Christmas in Mexico.... more
        • Re: Diverse population - whitney fisher, Mon Dec 12 00:46
          I have a friend who is doing "Christmases Around the World" this week in her classroom. I have heard so many great things about it because it lets children have pride in their culture and beliefs.... more
    • ELL - Amanda Solesbee, Thu Dec 8 00:17
      Wow, what a very interesting group and challenge for you. I know that ELL students really do struggle in my school- and we don’t have many, I actually only have 1 in my class. I hate it for her... more
      • ELL - Marlee Wright, Sun Dec 11 22:23
        I have worked with ELL students frequently in the past, and it is truly a challenge, and I think it is much harder for them when they are the only ones in class. In my experience, the other Hispanic... more
      • Re: ELL - Ashley Joyce, Sat Dec 10 12:21
        Thank you! Yes, working with these types of learners can be a challenge, but seeing their progression in the end is worth every bit of effort you put into these children. For your ELL learner in your ... more
    • Re: Rachel Hicks/Ashley Joyce - Nakita Carson, Tue Dec 6 19:25
      Great job ladies! I attended South Fork through 3rd grade and did not realize the population had become that diverse! Karreni?? What country is that? What part of town do your students come from?
      • Re: Rachel Hicks/Ashley Joyce - Ashley Joyce, Sat Dec 10 12:24
        http://www.karennirefugees.com/ Check out the website above! Karenni children are the best! They are the ones who will truly put a smile on your face. :) Yes, South Fork is extremely diverse! Coming... more
    • Re: Rachel Hicks/Ashley Joyce - Kara Scott , Mon Dec 5 18:28
      Great Job with your presentation.I liked how you used a varitey of sources with your students. The use of graphic organizers was also an important visual to help the students. What other support does ... more
    • ELL interventions - MaryBeth, Mon Dec 5 11:08
      Your school has quite a diverse population! I can understand how that would present many challenges. I'm glad you have ESL services for your students this year. Out of curiosity, why is it that... more
      • Re: ELL interventions - Ruth Ann Timmons, Sun Dec 11 10:51
        MaryBeth, I've also always wondered why kindergarten students are left out of receiving ESL services and support. It seems counter intuitive right?! Aren't we always hearing how important it is to... more
        • Re: ELL interventions - MaryBeth, Mon Dec 12 14:37
          I agree with you. I think it's crazy that Kindergarten students would be left out of services. I agree that they do pick up on things really quickly, but it seems like we would want to help them with ... more
    • ELL Language Comprehension - Sarah Patten, Sun Dec 4 15:23
      Great presentation!! Your graphic organizers made it easy to read your results. And you did see some improvement!! What a diverse group! Sounds like you realize how important connection making is... more
      • RE: - Rachel Hicks, Sun Dec 4 22:12
        Thanks, we tried to keep our explanation of things as simple as possible.
    • Response to Language Comprehension - beasleycm, Sat Dec 3 12:11
      Great job on your presentation! You both have a very diverse classroom. Did this make it harder to implement your strategies? I thought your strategies were well thought out and effective. Do you... more
      • reply: Response to Lang. Comp. - Rachel Hicks, Sun Dec 4 12:19
        The diversity of our classroom did make it harder to implement our strategies. Some of our students need more guidance and modeling. My goal is to continue use this strategy for the remainer of the... more
        • time - Ruth Ann Timmons, Sun Dec 11 10:17
          Wonderful idea to continue utilizing your strategies! It is unfortunate however that the ESL services, that I assume are also helping your students, make finding time to implement instruction... more
    • esl - Tonya Isenhour, Fri Dec 2 20:27
      Wow! What a diverse group! Good presentation! Research was well organized and easy to follow! I like how you used illustrations with the students to get their response of the reading! Great idea.... more
      • Reply - Rachel Hicks, Sun Dec 4 12:20
        Thanks!
    • DIversity - Marlee Wright, Fri Dec 2 19:57
      You really do have a diverse population! That clearly presents a challenge for teachers, but it sounds as if you are really developing strategies to improve the opportunities for those children. I... more
      • Re: DIversity - Nakita Carson, Tue Dec 6 19:26
        I imagine with such a diverse population your staff has to be very well trained in cultural awareness.
      • Reply: Diversity - Rachel Hicks, Sun Dec 4 12:32
        The ITBS test was a nightmare!!! There is absolutely no validity in the test for my ESL students (especially with my Karenni students). I say that because one of my students "filled" in the bubbles... more
        • Re: Reply: Diversity - Ashley Joyce, Sat Dec 10 12:29
          I will second that. The ITBS test in Kindergarten was a nightmare! I had students who were literally stressed out because they didnt know if they were doing it "right." I had other students who just... more
        • standardized test tips - koppenhaverd, Sun Dec 4 23:00
          There are too many limitations to standardized testing to go into, which are only compounded by young kids and young ELLS kids not understanding how to even complete them. Another value of multiple... more
          • Re: standardized test tips - Nakita Carson, Tue Dec 6 19:29
            Amen! People in ivory towers have no place deciding what should happen in schools and classrooms!
          • Amen - Rachel Hicks, Mon Dec 5 18:29
            I couldn't have said it better!
    • Re: Rachel Hicks/Ashley Joyce - Ashley Montgomery, Fri Dec 2 16:13
      It sounds like you ladies have really challenging classrooms. I liked your intervention plan. I think it is very helpful for young studnets to reread or relisten to a story several times. I really... more
      • re: rachel hicks and ashley joyce - landersgl, Thu Dec 15 00:08
        I agree, I liked how you had your students reread stories and illustrate parts of the story!
      • re: - Rachel Hicks, Sun Dec 4 12:36
        The diversity at our school is what I love about it and it pushes me every day. I have found that having students illustrate their favorite part of the story, is the best way to overcome the language ... more
    • Ashley and Rachel - sarah hutson, Thu Dec 1 22:20
      You chose a very important topic for your research. Our schools are becoming more and more diverse by the day. Because of the differing skills between students, it is very difficult to meet the needs ... more
      • Re: Ashley and Rachel - Ruth Ann Timmons, Sun Dec 11 10:41
        Sarah, I agree. KWL is a simple and effective strategy. Its perfect for both students and teachers, helping to engage students on the topic by activating prior knowledge and also providing an... more
      • RE: - Rachel Hicks, Sun Dec 4 12:44
        I agree with you that our schools are becoming more and more diverse. It is something that we as educators need to stay ahead of the curve. We need always be on the look out for strategies that will... more
        • RE: - crousejs, Thu Dec 15 23:43
          I’ve only had the opportunity to teach ELL children one year and I had four in my classroom that year. In my reading lessons I had “anticipation guides” to try to assess what they already knew in... more
    • Ashley and Rachel - beasleylm, Thu Dec 1 21:34
      Great presentation! You have a very, very diverse school and classroom and I think this research project and the strategies you used are very effective and great for all the diverse students. I did... more
      • Re: assessment in Data Source 1 - Rachel Hicks, Sun Dec 4 12:40
        Are you refering to the ITBS test?
        • Re: assessment in Data Source 1 - beasleylm, Sun Dec 4 20:21
          Yes!
          • re: - Rachel Hicks, Sun Dec 4 22:14
            The ITBS test stands for the Iowa Tests of Basic Skills. It test Vocabulary, Word Analysis, Reading Comprehension, Listening, Language, Mathematics in Kindergarten. It also includes science and... more
            • itbs reading comprehension - koppenhaverd, Sun Dec 4 23:08
              A problem of the ITBS (and most standardized reading assessments) is that the passages are present when the kids answer the questions. Among other problems, that means you can answer many questions... more
    • Background Knowledge - atkinssh, Thu Dec 1 20:44
      Great job on your research! I like that you gave the opportunity for your students to activate their prior knowledge before reading each story. With children who are from so many different... more
      • Re: Background Knowledge - Nakita Carson, Tue Dec 6 19:32
        My question is with your ESL/ELL/LEP students does it make it more challenging to get to their background knowledge? Not that they don't have the experience to pull from but I imagine the language... more
        • Re: Background Knowledge - Ruth Ann Timmons, Sun Dec 11 10:30
          Nakita, you bring up a great point. These ESL/ELL/LEP, like all children, I'm sure have prior knowledge and wonderful personal experiences, much different from there American classmates, they could... more
      • RE: - Rachel Hicks, Sun Dec 4 12:56
        5 of my students received ESL services. 1 student was pulled everyday for 45 minutes during our math block to help him master the math curriculum. Another student is pulled everyday for 45 minutes... more
    • response to Rachel and Ashley - Lori Vestal , Thu Dec 1 17:44
      To have a school that large and speaking 26 different languages means you have a very diverse school. I wondered what was the ITBS on data source 1? What types of focus questions did you use? Where... more
      • RE: - Rachel Hicks, Sun Dec 4 13:05
        The ITBS test stands for the Iowa Tests of Basic Skills. It test Vocabulary, Word Analysis, Reading Comprehension, Listening, Language, Mathematics in Kindergarten. It also includes science and... more
        • ITBS - Ruth Ann Timmons, Sun Dec 11 10:22
          I have heard teachers talk about this test but have not had any experience with it myself. Sounds like a "beefed up" version of our current K-2 assessments. I do remember taking the CAT (California... more
        • ITBS - Amanda Solesbee, Thu Dec 8 00:21
          I have never heard of this test before. Is it very well known in the school system in NC? Is it only used in certain types of schools? 26 languages...wow! How many do you know how to speak? I think... more
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