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Re: Copying and Grammar Instruction=Ineffective
Wed Jun 17, 2015 15:21
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I was surprised to learn that copying was considered ineffective for students with ASD. I guess after thinking about it, it probably is ineffective for typically developing students as well. In the lecture Dr. Koppenhaver gave the example of having you copy another language and then telling you to write something. The same goes for students when copying. I think it may be okay when teaching kids how to hold a pencil or how to grip a pencil and move it on paper, but I now think that copying would be ineffective.

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    • Re: Copying and Grammar Instruction=Ineffective - lavertyse, Wed Jun 17 15:21
      • Re: lavertyse - bennettmc, Wed Jun 17 18:21
        I agree, the lecture was very informative and I learned so much from it. In my opinion, there are not enough teachers who truly understand what works and what does not. I still feel like students are ... more
    • 3 answers to questions - koppenhaverd, Wed Jun 17 15:20
      1. Copying is ineffective after it is used to introduce a new letter. It loses utility after 3-6 copies. It is ineffective because it reduces a complex social, linguistic, cognitive, and... more
      • re: 3 answers to questions - stacy huffman, Thu Jun 18 22:54
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      • Re: 3 answers to Qs - bennettmc, Wed Jun 17 15:56
        Thanks for the reply Dr. Koppenhaver. I was glad to learn that Eric's mom and Eric's teacher attended the classes you teach because our understanding of concepts like these are so often wrong. That's ... more
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