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Jean Milton
Understanding
Wed Jun 3, 2015 14:16
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I totally missed the part or didn't fully process the statement of students on the spectrum generally understanding reading and writing before they can begin to understand listening and speaking. I found this to be quite the opposite to my personal experience and experience from my sister. She is a substitute instructional aide for students with disabilities and for the past month her primary contact has been with students on the spectrum. I asked her some questions about the classroom and some of the students and she said that the students seemed to understand the process in reverse. She said that most of the students, all ranging from K-12th and up to 6 different schools in California, were verbal but close to illiterate. She said that many of them had a means of verbal communication way before they had the skills to read or write. I know that that this is an extremely small sample when compared to the subgroup as a whole, but this even contradicts what I have seen first hand. I am curious as to how this is true.

  • Emergent Literacy in ASD Lecture - Allison Powers, Wed Jun 3 10:31
    The lecture completely changed the way I think about literacy in children, especially children with autism. Honestly, I did view it as a linear process with listening and speaking skills coming... more
    • Reply to: Emergent Literacy in ASD Lecture - Angie Helton, Thu Jun 4 23:02
      I always thought that the way a student learns to read is listening, speaking, writing, then reading and comprehension. You brought up a good question, if the ASD child learns to write and read... more
    • Where to start: writing - Megan Rembert, Thu Jun 4 13:21
      I completely agree with how the nonlinear learning process was different than I thought it would be. In regards of where to start, I would say the writing video that was posted from YouTube is a... more
    • Emergent Literacy Reply - parsonkl, Wed Jun 3 21:53
      I agree with your points about students who are nonverbal. It amazes me how individuals can communicate non-verbally, and still be able to be fully understood. Using body language, gestures, and... more
    • Linear Process - Jordan Seagraves, Wed Jun 3 16:51
      I also thought everyone learned listening and speaking skills before learning to read and write. It still blows my mind to think about why this is different for children with ASD and how it could... more
    • Reading/Writing before speaking - luckadooso, Wed Jun 3 16:46
      In my experience at the North Carolina School for the Deaf, I worked with a student with ASD. He struggled a lot with communication in general, especially through sign and any vocalization was... more
      • Reply to: Reading/Writing before speaking - Angie Helton, Thu Jun 4 23:06
        What a great experience. My mom is deaf and does not sign at all. She is verbal though and read lips very well. I think the opportunity you had to work with that child is awesome. Giving him plenty... more
    • Re: Emergent Literacy in ASD Lecture - McKenzi Davis, Wed Jun 3 15:59
      I, like you, was somewhat shocked when the lecture told us that literacy is not linear like many intend for it to be. This is a hard concept for us to take grasp of because I think that some of us... more
    • appreciate the honesty - koppenhaverd, Wed Jun 3 15:20
      Good for you, Allison. I think life experiences and conventional practice often lead us to the understanding you have. The complexity is hidden by the success most of experience individually. The... more
    • Understanding - Jean Milton, Wed Jun 3 14:16
      • reply to Jean: contradictions - macdonaldke, Fri Jun 5 12:00
        I also found this idea of learning writing and reading before speaking and listening contradictory to what I've believed and have been taught. Especially in my diversity class for ELLs, we talked... more
    • Reply to Allison - Emergent Literacy in ASD - Haley Brigman, Wed Jun 3 10:47
      I was interested in this too. I had always thought of reading as a step by step process. Erikson's Model in the Emergent Literacy lecture where reading, writing, speaking, and listening all feed off... more
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