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shannonsilver
Gammar
Tue Oct 6, 2015 15:32
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I think that grammar is really abstract for students to understand until they can apply it to there own reading or writing. When I taught 4th grade, we use to complete a grammar lesson daily out of the Scott Foresman Reading Street series. We noticed that students have issues with grammar and you can tell in their writing and speaking. These SF activities were so disjointed that the students never transferred what they learned into their writing or specking. We also did, DOLs everyday and I saw more success in correcting grammar than using it correctly. That's is when I decided to do a little mini lesson after DOL that related to the DOL and I would do mini lessons in writing instruction and conferencing. Don't judge but I always thought that when students are in lower grades and they are understanding sentences that they could be taught parts of speech as they are learning their first verbs, nouns, adjectives, etc, and when they are writing their first sentences that could be taught what makes up the subject and predicate. My 4th graders have never heard the word "predicate" before they got to me. It would have been a whole lot easier to teach them with less complex sentences in lower grades....Just sayin' Funny story: We had a cook out with my family and a few of us decided to play MAD LIBS. None of the adults could remember what an adverb, noun, plural nouns, etc were. I had to teach a mini lesson before we could complete the MAD LIBS. Obviously, grammar instruction isn't a survival skill let alone a daily life skill for most. BTW these adults were either retired, or had respectable jobs. Kinda sad that we haven't figured this out yet.

  • Re: Effective Writing Practices - brittanyavery, Mon Oct 5 05:27
    Melanie, That's a great question, and I actually found myself trying to figure out the same thing this year. I've been using a narrative unit that has mini lessons for specific skills, and included... more
    • Gammar - shannonsilver, Tue Oct 6 15:32
      • Daily Fix-Its - Melanie McLeod, Wed Oct 7 15:27
        Hi, Shannon: We have very limited time for grammar instruction within my daily schedule. However, I would have time for a 'Fix-It' grammar correction practice with 2 sentences (which go along with my ... more
        • Daily Fix -Its - shannonsilver, Wed Oct 7 21:26
          Hello Melanie, That is what we did with Daily Oral Language. I agree teachers have limited time as it is, so choosing the most effective way to teach a concept is key. I saw at a school in the... more
          • Sentence Fix Its - megangouge, Mon Oct 12 09:06
            When I did my student teaching, we used to do the DOL and I felt it was very beneficial for such a short quick lesson. With first grade I used to use the Letterland sentences that are on the spelling ... more
            • DOL - shannonsilver, Mon Oct 12 20:59
              They sure do like to point out your mistakes. Makes it fun and it puts everybody on an even playing field. Did you teach grammar during their writing time as well or did you find it difficult to fit... more
              • Grammar - megangouge, Tue Oct 13 10:27
                During this time I was not focusing much on grammar. I taught grammar separately and did have a hard time fitting it into the schedule!! There isn't enough time during the day to fit everything in!
          • Fix-Its - Melanie McLeod, Thu Oct 8 06:02
            I agree, Shannon. Students need to hear how a correct sentence sounds so that he/she can produce an effective sentence of their own. I think working with a Daily Fix-It sentence correction would help ... more
            • Re: Fix-Its - candithompson, Sun Oct 11 16:16
              My students correct a sentence every day on their morning work. It is not a lot, but I see them starting to pay attention to sentence structure. I also give mini-lessons with nouns, verbs, proper... more
              • Sentence Correction - Melanie McLeod, Sun Oct 11 17:11
                Candy: Thank you for replying. I'm going to try the sentence correction and see how my students respond.
        • Daily Fix it - haleyferrell, Wed Oct 7 15:34
          Melanie, When I was working in 5th grade during a maternity leave the teacher had a daily Fix It for grammar. I feel that it was beneficial because the students, over time, were able to complete this ... more
          • May Try It - Melanie McLeod, Thu Oct 8 05:59
            Thanks, Haley. I may try to fit it in during my morning Welcome Work to see how it goes. At least I would be getting in some basic sentence/grammar structure skills in within my busy day.
            • Worth a try - haleyferrell, Thu Oct 8 09:25
              It is worth a try. If it is too much for your students cut it down to one sentence and start with just one grammar error or one punctuation error. Then, as time goes by start adding more.
          • Re: Daily Fix it - brittanyavery, Wed Oct 7 20:35
            Haley, Do you think this helped them in a way that they were actually able to transfer what they learned in their writing?
      • Re: Gammar - brittanyavery, Tue Oct 6 15:59
        Shannon I seriously laughed when I read your "funny story" because I can totally relate with a similar experience with my family as well. I think you're so right when you made the point that those... more
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