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joanneabrams
Re: Effective Writing Practice
Wed Oct 7, 2015 21:44
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Hi Melanie,
I have tried incorporating grammer skills into my writing block and found myself losing a lot of the process of writing at the same time. I read in the article by Cutler and Graham that teaching primary grade students to love writing is the goal in theses early years. "Teachers need to pay more attention to promoting students' love and motivation for writing." (Primary Grade writing Instruction: A National Survey). So based on their research I understand them to suggest...not to stress over the grammar pieces as much. Not saying ignore it...just not the focus. If we want to focus on a specific skill we do so casually within their writing piece, or at another time, so it does not interfere with their flow and thought processes. I don't know if this is helpful or not, but I think I agree with this research.

  • Effective Writing Practices - Melanie McLeod, Sat Oct 3 09:50
    What constitute best writing practice? **Best writing practice for teachers involves balancing the time and energy with process writing and skills practice. While growing up and learning within the... more
    • Re: Effective Writing Practice - joanneabrams, Wed Oct 7 21:44
      • Re: Effective Writing Practice - byrdaw, Tue Oct 13 20:27
        Perfectly stated writing goal. I wish I was instructed with these principles as an elementary student. I also agree with allowing the flow of writing. I often had to keep my mouth closed and let the... more
      • Writing Practice - haleyferrell, Thu Oct 8 11:39
        Joann, I understand what you are saying and your time is very limited. I had a student last year that had trouble with grammar and with remembering his sentence. So, to help him and to use time... more
        • Re:Writing Practicie - joanneabrams, Thu Oct 8 19:46
          Thanks Haley...I like the ideas you've shared and want to try the popsicle sticks with certain kinder students that I have in mind. When I taught 4th grade, I put those kind of sentences you... more
      • Not During Writing Workshop - Melanie McLeod, Thu Oct 8 06:07
        Hi, Joanne: I agree with your thoughts and the articles, as well. I do not want to spend any of my valuable process writing time working on basic grammar skills. I already have a very limited amount... more
        • Re: Not during writers wkshp - joanneabrams, Thu Oct 8 20:08
          Hi Melanie, I think teaching writing at any grade level is truly challenging, with that said however, K-1 teachers are teaching writing on such a wide spectrum...from learning how to grip a pencil... more
    • Question - shannonsilver, Tue Oct 6 15:40
      **Question I have: Maybe modeling how to use the word processing tools could help. They customize the grammatical issues that each student has in their writing. Of course you would have to model... more
    • Re: Effective Writing Practices - brittanyavery, Mon Oct 5 05:27
      Melanie, That's a great question, and I actually found myself trying to figure out the same thing this year. I've been using a narrative unit that has mini lessons for specific skills, and included... more
      • Gammar - shannonsilver, Tue Oct 6 15:32
        I think that grammar is really abstract for students to understand until they can apply it to there own reading or writing. When I taught 4th grade, we use to complete a grammar lesson daily out of... more
        • Daily Fix-Its - Melanie McLeod, Wed Oct 7 15:27
          Hi, Shannon: We have very limited time for grammar instruction within my daily schedule. However, I would have time for a 'Fix-It' grammar correction practice with 2 sentences (which go along with my ... more
          • Daily Fix -Its - shannonsilver, Wed Oct 7 21:26
            Hello Melanie, That is what we did with Daily Oral Language. I agree teachers have limited time as it is, so choosing the most effective way to teach a concept is key. I saw at a school in the... more
            • Sentence Fix Its - megangouge, Mon Oct 12 09:06
              When I did my student teaching, we used to do the DOL and I felt it was very beneficial for such a short quick lesson. With first grade I used to use the Letterland sentences that are on the spelling ... more
              • DOL - shannonsilver, Mon Oct 12 20:59
                They sure do like to point out your mistakes. Makes it fun and it puts everybody on an even playing field. Did you teach grammar during their writing time as well or did you find it difficult to fit... more
                • Grammar - megangouge, Tue Oct 13 10:27
                  During this time I was not focusing much on grammar. I taught grammar separately and did have a hard time fitting it into the schedule!! There isn't enough time during the day to fit everything in!
            • Fix-Its - Melanie McLeod, Thu Oct 8 06:02
              I agree, Shannon. Students need to hear how a correct sentence sounds so that he/she can produce an effective sentence of their own. I think working with a Daily Fix-It sentence correction would help ... more
              • Re: Fix-Its - candithompson, Sun Oct 11 16:16
                My students correct a sentence every day on their morning work. It is not a lot, but I see them starting to pay attention to sentence structure. I also give mini-lessons with nouns, verbs, proper... more
                • Sentence Correction - Melanie McLeod, Sun Oct 11 17:11
                  Candy: Thank you for replying. I'm going to try the sentence correction and see how my students respond.
          • Daily Fix it - haleyferrell, Wed Oct 7 15:34
            Melanie, When I was working in 5th grade during a maternity leave the teacher had a daily Fix It for grammar. I feel that it was beneficial because the students, over time, were able to complete this ... more
            • May Try It - Melanie McLeod, Thu Oct 8 05:59
              Thanks, Haley. I may try to fit it in during my morning Welcome Work to see how it goes. At least I would be getting in some basic sentence/grammar structure skills in within my busy day.
              • Worth a try - haleyferrell, Thu Oct 8 09:25
                It is worth a try. If it is too much for your students cut it down to one sentence and start with just one grammar error or one punctuation error. Then, as time goes by start adding more.
            • Re: Daily Fix it - brittanyavery, Wed Oct 7 20:35
              Haley, Do you think this helped them in a way that they were actually able to transfer what they learned in their writing?
        • Re: Gammar - brittanyavery, Tue Oct 6 15:59
          Shannon I seriously laughed when I read your "funny story" because I can totally relate with a similar experience with my family as well. I think you're so right when you made the point that those... more
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