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joanne abrams
Cognitive Process Theory of Writing
Mon Sep 7, 2015 14:43
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As I was reading the article Cognitive Process Theory of Writing I couldn't help but to think back on our two writing courses we took last year. I feel the most valuable piece that I learned was that writing is not necessarily linear, but actually as one author put it...that it is in fact, quite messy as a process. I thought that explanation was much more accurate than all the steps I had been taught and had been teaching my own students over the years. (mainly 2nd and up) I was relieved when I read this because I never really felt that I was all that successful teaching writing as a step by step process. I never remembered, nor considered other things such as drawings, lists, notes, journals etc. as part of the traditional writing process. All of which I've come to learn through my coursework with Dr. Frye, are very valuable tools for pre-writes at the very least.
When reading Flower's and Hayes's article I related to their theory of A Cognitive Process...of being one that involves mental processes, (i.e. generating ideas) which are hierarchically structured, versus the the widely accepted pre-writing model. When someone is generating ideas, it can happen randomly, and they do not have to fit into a specific time frame of the writing process itself. I have at times, started a paper by thinking about what I've concluded...and that gives way to how I am going to begin. So for this reason I feel a linear path in writing is counter-productive.
Learning to teach writing for Kindergarteners is especially unique, in that they do not begin as writers' in the traditional sense at all. It is really all about mental processes, and generating ideas, which then they are able to get onto paper by way of illustrations. The written words follow some weeks or months later.

  • Cognitive Process Theory of Writing - koppenhaverd, Sun Aug 30 19:35
    Discuss the Cognitive Process Theory of writing here. Here are some possible questions you might address to begin the conversation: Does it seem to fit your students? Does it seem to match with what... more
    • Re: Cognitive Process Theory of Writing - byrdaw, Sat Sep 19 16:53
      As an EC teacher, I find myself lacking in the knowledge of how to use technology as an instructional resource in my classroom. The developing technology article made me begin to strategize how I... more
    • technology - Anonymous, Sat Sep 19 16:51
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      • Technology - walshjm2, Sun Sep 20 20:26
        Adele, I love the idea of using Padlet for children to write down questions and responses when they feel uncomfortable speaking up, or time doesn't allow for them to ask their question. Children... more
      • Re: technology - byrdaw, Sat Sep 19 17:01
        As an EC teacher, I find myself lacking in the knowledge of how to use technology as an instructional resource in my classroom. The developing technology article made me begin to strategize how I... more
    • Re: Cognitive Process Theory of Writing - Anonymous, Sun Sep 13 16:43
      After reading and listening to this lecture I feel that having Dr. Frye's writing class really helped my teaching for writing. I have never enjoyed writing and to be honest was not my favorite to... more
    • Cognitive Process Theory of Writing - byrdaw, Wed Sep 9 19:38
      As I am being instructed on writing instruction in Dr. Frye's writing class and reading this article, modeling stands out as a key method to assist children in the development of writing. As a young... more
      • Cognitive Process Theory of Writing - Regina, Sat Sep 12 10:29
        Writing is such a complex process and after reading the articles and listening to the lecture, I have a better understanding of the process. I do not consider myself a writer, and I have thought of... more
    • Cognitive Process Theory of writing - megangouge, Wed Sep 9 17:06
      I hate to sound like a broken record but as I was reading and participating in the lecture, I also was reminded of Dr. Frye's writing class... I always thought of teaching writing as a daunting task... more
      • Cognitive Process Theory of Writing - Martha Brown, Sun Sep 13 23:41
        It was also so very helpful for me to learn about the apps to help students who have special needs. The production piece is important for teachers to understand and to have knowledge of options to... more
    • Cognitive Process Theory of Writing - joanne abrams, Mon Sep 7 14:46
      As I was reading the article Cognitive Process Theory of Writing I couldn't help but to think back on our two writing courses we took last year. I feel the most valuable piece that I learned was that ... more
      • Re: Cognitive Process Theory of Writing - candithompson, Tue Sep 22 11:09
        I agree with you and can relate to A cognitive Process with my first graders. Writing involves a mental process starting with generating ideas. This may come easy to some kids, but not to many young... more
        • Re: Cog. Process - joanneabrams, Wed Sep 23 19:59
          Well i guess the good news is now we know! Going forward we won't waste another minute on teaching writing in a linear mode. Instead we have a new direction that is tried and true, as we have all... more
      • Re: Cognitive Process Theory of Writing - Martha Bown, Thu Sep 10 16:21
        The Cognitive Process Theory of Writing information is very helpful for me. I really like what you said about learning to teach writing for Kindergarten children. This can apply to pre-school... more
        • Re:Cog.Theory of Writing - joanne abrams, Thu Sep 10 17:20
          Martha I agree! Writing is the glue that makes it all stick! I never would have been so bold to try what I tried last year had it not been for those writing courses. I'm glad I learned to just take... more
    • Cognitive Process Theory of Writing - joanne abrams, Mon Sep 7 14:43
      • Cognitive Process Theory of Writing - Martha Brown, Sun Sep 13 23:28
        A lot of what you said applies to pre-school children as well. Since this is my frame of reference for writing, I thought of the materials important to have in centers for the pre-school age child.... more
    • Cognitive Process Theory of Writing - brittanyavery, Mon Sep 7 14:23
      The readings, lecture and theory as a whole make perfect sense to me after having Dr. Frye's writing class. Without really knowing the name of the theory, this is how I have been modeling and... more
    • Cognitive Process Theory of Writing - Melanie McLeod, Sun Sep 6 09:19
      I agree with the Cognitive Process Theory of Writing. Before I took our ASU Writing course with Dr. Frye, I always saw the writing process as the traditional, linear process (Pre-Writing, Rough... more
      • Traditional linear process - HaleyFerrell, Fri Sep 18 10:48
        I agree with you Melanie because I too was taught the linear process. I never thought that writing a paper was fun because I always had a framework to go buy and I couldn't write how I truly wanted... more
        • Linear Model Intimidation - Melanie McLeod, Sat Sep 19 19:08
          Haley: I think the Cognitive Model of Writing is much more 'forgiving' for students. With the linear model, it's pretty-much a one-time deal; you really don't feel like you can revise/edit as you... more
      • Re: Cognitive Process Theory of Writing - brittanyavery, Mon Sep 14 21:35
        Oh, ok. That sounds like something that would be good to work into writing workshop. That would be a good option to allow students to explore, and to even use for creating "All About Books" like we... more
      • Re: Cognitive Process Theory of Writing - byrdaw, Thu Sep 10 05:11
        I completely agree with you when you speak of the importance of assistance students if their writing loses focus. The" goal setting" aspect spoken by the author assists students in staying on topic.... more
        • Cognitive Process Theory of Writing - Martha Brown, Sun Sep 13 23:19
          Thank you for sharing this list of great resources. I appreciate having this list of online tools for differentiation of students.
      • Cognitive Process Theory of Writing - shannonsilver, Tue Sep 8 22:47
        I use to think that teaching writing was so difficult because it under the constructs of how we were encouraged to teach writing (explicitly) that either some students were born with a gift of... more
        • Writing Confidence - Melanie McLeod, Thu Sep 10 17:42
          I feel much more confident modeling the writing process for my students. I was always hesitant to model in from of them because I have always felt that I 'was not a writer.' However, I think teacher... more
          • Re: Writing Confidence - candithompson, Tue Sep 22 11:16
            I realized last semester during our writing course that I must show confidence in myself if I expect that from my students. I approached this with my students that I was going to work on being more... more
            • Writing Conferences - Melanie McLeod, Wed Sep 23 19:09
              Hey, Candi: Conferencing is difficult for me because I only have approximately 30-min for Writing Workshop. Maybe choose two students per session to conference with after you have modeled your... more
          • Re: Writing Confidence - Amanda, Sun Sep 13 14:06
            I remember the fourth grade writing test. We had prepared forEVER for the test. We had practiced all year long. We had all our pencils sharpened and we were ready to go. Then we got the prompt "Write ... more
        • Re: Cognitive Process Theory of Writing - byrdaw, Thu Sep 10 05:27
          As I was reading your reply, I wondered why the idea of modeling never occurred in the writing lessons I learned as a young student. Teachers modeled how to solve mathematical questions, conduct a... more
          • Smaller group sizes - shannonsilver, Thu Sep 10 16:19
            Yes for students that have attention issues and working memory issues. The reason I say this is because easily distractible students have a hard time focusing in a small group to complete a task... more
            • Re: Smaller group sizes - byrdaw, Mon Sep 14 18:26
              She would conference with one student and the others would either be writing a piece of text or sharing their writings aloud with another student. The students had a sheet that they would use to... more
      • Re: Cognitive Process Theory of Writing - brittanyavery, Mon Sep 7 13:38
        How does Story Creator work? Is it something I could use with 3rd grade or is it more for primary grades?
        • Book Creator - Melanie McLeod, Mon Sep 7 18:13
          Brittany, Let me clarify: It's Book Creator and the technology dept. was supposed to purchase for the teachers who attended the Digital Storytelling technology training at the beginning of school (I... more
          • Resource - megangouge, Wed Sep 9 16:55
            I guess that was a good incentive to get us to attend the workshops this summer however, if this is something worthwhile to assist in writing the county should look into others that would use it!
            • Book Creator - Melanie McLeod, Wed Sep 9 17:25
              Hi, Megan: We were not informed that they were getting us the app until after we had attended the training. Any app to facilitate writing would be a nice investment for our district to purchase for... more
          • Re: Book Creator - Anonymous, Wed Sep 9 07:38
            Oh, ok. That sounds like something that would be good to work into writing workshop. That would be a good option to allow students to explore, and to even use for creating "All About Books" like we... more
            • Re: Book Creator - Anonymous, Wed Sep 9 07:48
              Oops! Sorry that was Brittany. My iPad didn't prompt me to login!
      • Cognitive Process Theory of Writing - joanne abrams, Mon Sep 7 13:26
        I agree with what you're saying about the hierarchical process being more realistic. As students most of us were taught in a linear, traditional process for how to write.. as well as becoming... more
        • Prompt Writing - Melanie McLeod, Tue Sep 8 18:23
          Joanne: Before taking our writing class, I would have felt like letting the children write about what they want would be so confusing for them and stressful for me as their teacher. I have grown up... more
          • Promt Writing - walshjm2, Sun Sep 20 20:58
            Melanie, I am just beginning to take the writing class that is being offered to the Cohort classes. I have learned so much in the short time since beginning though. I too am a product of prompt... more
          • Prompt Writing - shannonsilver, Tue Sep 8 23:02
            I feel that prompt writing boxes students in and creates anxiety about writing. We want students to be so well rounded so that they can write about any topic the teacher puts up. But the reality is... more
            • Re: Prompt Writing - haleyferrell, Fri Sep 18 12:41
              Shannon, I too feel the same with prompt writing. I always felt that I was boxed in and could not express myself because I was afraid it was not what the teacher wanted. My EC students in upper... more
          • Cog. Process & writing - joanne abrams, Tue Sep 8 20:24
            Melanie, I agree! We are from a generation that endorsed that process of writing. It's amazing to think that people actually went on to become professional writers after such rigid or linear... more
            • Re: Cog. Process & writing - byrdaw, Mon Sep 14 18:20
              I completely agree with you on the process of writing. As I began the writing instruction with my students, I think of how excited my students were today. We had a writing party where we discussed... more
              • Re: Cog. Process & writing - joanne abrams, Mon Sep 14 21:46
                I feel that teaching writing is kind of like walking a fine line. As teachers we all want to remain true to our purpose and goals of teaching writing, yet we also want kids to feel "safe" to express... more
            • Re: Cog. Process & writing - brittanyavery, Fri Sep 11 07:51
              Joanne I'm also excited to teach writing this year! Reading the article made me think of how teaching writing now has to be so much funner than it was when students were forced to follow the linear... more
              • Re:Cog. process and writing - joanne abrams, Fri Sep 11 18:42
                Brittany, I just began "The Launch" yesterday and really feel like I have a sense of direction now. Prior to our writing coursework, I always felt like I was floundering and wondering if I was... more
                • Re:Cog. process and writing - brittanyavery, Sat Sep 12 17:03
                  I launched mine on Wednesday, and I feel the same way! Having that experience from last year helped me to understand the article much better. Also, reading the article helped me to remember much of... more
                  • Re: Cog. Process - joanne abrams, Sun Sep 13 11:18
                    So true...I agree Brittany. It's helped us to form a familiar path to an end goal!
            • LOL - shannonsilver, Tue Sep 8 23:09
              I was thinking the same thing. It's a wonder how anybody ended up a writer the way we were taught to write in school. I remember that I hated writing because something was always wrong with it. It... more
              • Ditto! - megangouge, Wed Sep 9 16:50
                I had a similar experience in school! I hated writing because I can remember the 4th grade writing test and practicing for that. I did well when we did the practice ones that the teacher graded but... more
              • Re: LOL - joanne abrams, Wed Sep 9 08:57
                Yes, made it out alive is right Shannon!!...there is so much I look back on now mainly from my middle school grades on up and wonder why we were taught that way, but I guess that's what education is... more
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