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joanne abrams
Tue Sep 8, 2015 19:49

Hey Shannon,
I was thinikng about your question and this is what I notice with assessing NWF. I do not notice my students struggling with NWF but rather the reverse, but in a sort of problamatic way in regards to diagnosis.
Often times they are very adept by years end to quickly sound out the three letter Nonsense words...especially because they most have mastered a short vowel in the middle, which by years end are the easier vowel sounds for them. Where I see the problem with this assessment is that it is not an automatic indicator that if they do well on these words, that they will be skilled at decoding...not true necessarily. I have seen students who score high here and don't do well in overall decoding because they cannot chunk bigger words, or do not understand long vowel patterns etc. So that's why I'm not a fan of NWF.

  • Re: Nonsense Words - shannonsilver, Mon Sep 7 16:33
    Question.....Do you all see that students that are learning to find meaning in reading independently have a harder time with NMF tasks because their brains are trying to find meaning in everything... more
    • Re: Nonsense Words - candithompson, Tue Sep 22 11:23
      I have had many of my high readers struggle with NWF. When I talk with parents, teachers or principal I have always stated my opinion that I do not look at their NWF. Just like in the lecture Dr.... more
    • Nonsense Words - walshjm2, Sat Sep 12 21:31
      Shannon, as I read your question about children who are already reading for meaning, and how they can sometimes have a difficult time with NWF drills, I was reminded of my own daughter when she was... more
    • Nonsense words - Regina, Wed Sep 9 21:39
      Shannon, I teach second grade and I have experienced many students that are on grade level or above do poorly on the nonsense words. I feel the same as you... that they are trying to find meaning in... more
      • Nonsense Words - walshjm2, Sat Sep 12 21:14
        One point that I pulled from Dr. Koppenhaver's lecture was that nonsense words should not be used in Special Education. As a Special Education teacher, this really makes logical sense to me, because... more
    • NWF - joanne abrams, Tue Sep 8 19:49
      • NWF - shannonsilver, Tue Sep 8 23:17
        The reason I asked was that once students realize that the words they are reading are to mean something to them it seems like it would be hard to make them read nonsense words because they are moving ... more
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