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One of the best articles I have read in a long time — Benny, Wed Apr 25 12:53

Martin Samuel hits the nail squarely on the head once more. Shame it's in the Daily Mail -... more
- This paper makes a living out of... — SWS, Wed Apr 25 16:18
  
  ...supporting and employing some of the lowest specimens with some of the vilest opinions I have ever known. I agree with the article in this instance, but find it hard to read an article such as... more
- - Be realistic, just because someone writes something doesn't — Anonymous, Thu Apr 26 09:26
    
    mean they hold that belief. Hacks, particularly those at tabloids, write stories that people will read. Often that means penning a piece they disagree with just to sell papers. Sadly, insightful,... more
  - - Re: Be realistic, just because someone writes something doesn't — Baldric, Thu Apr 26 11:42
      
      Oh so Melanie Phillips is really a pefectly well adjusted soul that you'd like to have as a next door neighbour? You have a point in that opinion pieces are by definition written to evoke a response, ... more
  - I share your views on the Mail — Benny, Wed Apr 25 19:52
    
    I don't know why Samuel lowers himself to write for it. He is infinitely better than that.
  - - Because he's on a massive 6 figure contract to work there (nm) — Anonymous, Thu Apr 26 09:22
  - Isn't Martin Samuel reputedly a good writer though? — My Only Wycombe, Wed Apr 25 18:20
    
    It's not as though his views are that of the entire paper. The PFA should have stripped Ched Evans of his place in that team.
  - Another paper on your hitlist (nm) — PE, Wed Apr 25 16:37
  - - Haha!! LOOK OUT! (nm) — SWS, Wed Apr 25 17:28
- Good article — Jonny King, Wed Apr 25 13:11
  
  if rather depressing, seeing what some people are prepared to say about a rape victim (including wishing further assaults on her) on the internet, just because she was the victim of an attack by a... more
- - supporters tend to see — DC, Wed Apr 25 16:02
    
    players of the club they support as part pof an extended family rightly or wrongly. In Mark Philo's case I see and saw nothing wrong in mourning the death of "one of the family" even if his death has ... more
  - Were they convieniently ignored? — Floyd, Wed Apr 25 13:14
    
    I remember them being on the front page of the BFP...
  - - By the club specifically I thought. — Jonny King, Wed Apr 25 13:17
      
      Though I hope perhaps I can be corrected on this. There was an outpouring of grief from Wycombe fans, which is fair enough, but it seemed it was all about Philo and not the other woman (I must... more
    - - I don't claim to have a better memory — Floyd, Wed Apr 25 13:26
        
        But i'm pretty sure that the facts (was there an official inquiry?) only came out some weeks later. The tributes at the Barnet game, our next home game and at the memorial service happened before... more
      - you're right — our frank, Thu Apr 26 08:52
        
        I think it was at the inquest that all the facts came out, some time later.
        I believe there was one, yes. — Jonny King, Wed Apr 25 13:39
        
        I won't go into the findings, but I think you get a brief summary of it on Marc Philo's wikipedia page. I take your point about the delay in finding out what we later came to know, I had completely... more
      - I do retract my use of the word 'conveniently' though — Jonny King, Wed Apr 25 13:18
        
        I'm not trying to suggest WWFC were involved in some sort of bad taste cover-up.
  - Better clarify now — Jonny King, Wed Apr 25 13:13
    
    I am not comparing Marc Philo to Ched Evans as a human being. Philo was guilty of idiocy, what Ched Evans did was intentional and evil. However, the consequences of Phio's actions were even more... more
  - - You really would have been better not making — Benny, Wed Apr 25 13:19
      
      such a comparison and sticking to the subject in hand. You are right, some of the reaction to Evans' conviction has been deeply depressing. Those who have named the victim on Twitter (and elsewhere)... more
    - - It wasn't in my mind when I started writing — Jonny King, Wed Apr 25 13:35
        
        but occured to me halfway through. Like I said, the two cases don't compare and obviously no WW fans were slagging off the other woman on twitter, but I have always felt a little uneasy about, for... more
      - The two situations are completely different — Benny, Wed Apr 25 14:21
        
        and really should be kept separate.
        Each to their own — Jonny King, Wed Apr 25 16:22
        
        Like I said, I didn't start my reply with Philo in mind, but it popped into my head halfway through. I was thinking of it more in terms of how fans react to terrible things like this.
        I do hope the more idiotic of our supporters — eric plant, Wed Apr 25 14:33
        
        bear the tragedy in mind this saturday when we play Notts County and Lee Hughes the chants of "murderer" up at Meadow Lane earlier in the season would have been pathetic at the best of times, but... more
        Wouldn't say he's my favourite person though — DJ, Wed Apr 25 16:07
        
        As well as causing death by dangerous driving hasn't he been arrested and charged with sexual assault ?
        clearly not — eric plant, Wed Apr 25 16:12
        Re: It wasn't in my mind when I started writing — Baldric, Wed Apr 25 13:46
        
        I know exactly where you are coming from on this, and it was very difficult to say anything at the time, as well as to express those sentiments now. You are not alone in thinking that the initial... more

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