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A Worboys
Secretive democracy won't work
Tue May 15, 2012 20:27
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I'm afraid in this day of information technology and social media, organisations which want to engage with people simply cannot by-pass them. I fully appreciate the need for confidentiality over current negotiations concerning the ownership of the club. WW Trust at present has some incredibly talented people working for the best long-term interests of the club. I'm sure Steve Hayes would also like to see the club go forward positively.

It's only human nature that people are desperate for information and a lack of it only creates rumour and speculation. However, regarding the Exeter story, we have a major problem when it comes to the form of democracy in this country. The "you've elected me so I'll do what I want" attitude won't wash anymore. MPs seem to think they can do what they want - leading probably to the largest ever amount of apathy and cynicism towards politicians in my lifetime anyway.

It's very important that any football trust consults its members on key issues. Having said that, you can't consult members on every little decision (c.f. Ebbsfleet United). The other problem is you can elect seemingly plausible people who get carried away with their own importance and wreck the very thing they were elected to look after. So it's very important to look at the bigger picture and really get involved so you know what's going on. Voting for the best salesman rarely works.

  • Article about ECFC's trust — Bilversack, Tue May 15 19:02
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/18069274 Apologies if the deck is tilting.
    • I would be interested to know how the Trust raises £100k per — Tory Goon, Wed May 16 06:59
      Year. At WWST we only managed to raise £70k for the shareholding the rest coming from an individual. And it took a few years.
    • Secretive democracy won't work — A Worboys, Tue May 15 20:27
    • "he said the trust should have consulted supporters....". Hm (nm — Twiggy, Tue May 15 19:05
      • He doesn't say that — Baldric, Tue May 15 19:22
        Consulting 'supporters' would be to include in the decision making process people who were not Trust members and in a sense have opted out of membership. Simply being a fan doesn't entitle you to... more
        • Sorry, he does, para 3. However, I agree that — Twiggy, Tue May 15 19:46
          Not every decision should be put to members, or supporters, but there are some things that DO need to be discussed before massive changes are made, in their name. The company will have to take a deal ... more
          • Spot on Mrs Lawson! (nm) — Benny, Tue May 15 19:53
          • See my answer to BTT — Baldric, Tue May 15 19:52
            I think though the use of the word supporter is a shorthand for member of the supporters trust rather than all fans. Without being an expert in the operation of the Trust, the press release that they ... more
        • If the Trust is transparent and acting in the interests..... — Bill Turnbull's Twitch, Tue May 15 19:33
          ...of it's members then it should be open to scrutiny. After whatever secret deal is struck with Hayes, I hope subsequent issues and developments proposed are properly consulted and open. No more... more
          • I don't disagree — Baldric, Tue May 15 19:45
            with that at all, but a line does need to be drawn somewhere between empowering an elected Trust Board to act on behalf of the membership,and electing a board but requiring them to refer everything... more
            • Refer everything back? No, but think about what you're about — Twiggy, Tue May 15 20:17
              To do and agree to. At least tell the membership on this HUGE change? Too much to ask, or is there something unpalatable to hide?
              • Exactly, Twiggy. — Bill Turnbull's Twitch, Tue May 15 20:57
                This is why I am waiting until any announcement is made before I make a judgement on whether to join the trust, buy a season ticket for the first time ever etc etc. Whatever happens, the trust needs... more
            • I don't think you understand why they 'walked away'! — Twiggy, Tue May 15 19:50
              It was to allow the trust board to better function with Beeks and Hayes in that situation, from what I understand.. They expected to be included in some dialogue when the situation was obviously... more
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