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you opinions aren't valid if you haven't paid to join the Trust.

I don't have a role in the Trust nor am I "a bit keen on them". The individuals who run the Trust may have merits or otherwise, and I don't always agree with their actions, but I am supportive of the idea of a one member, one vote organisation that can attempt to provide some sort of democratic representation for supporters.

If for example the club wanted to sell the name of Adams Park to Causeway Technologies again, I would like to be in a position to vote against that and have that vote count in the decision making process.

You might prefer to email the club directly or post on here, both valid ways of expressing opinion of course, but not in my eyes the best way to affect change.

I believe that being a Trust member "could" be the best way, if enough people join and utilise what it could be, rather than what it is currently sniped at as being.

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so will the supporters rally to the trust?? stay away fans? — True blue, Tue May 15 20:08

will those who have been in exile in protest actually return and will we see a lift in the gates next season? or is it all mouth from certain people?
- My initial enthusiasm has been tempered .. — Ed, Wed May 16 08:46
  
  .. by a certain amount of reality. The membership for the Trust was in an envelope and ready to post before it occurred to me that I really should wait to see what sort of deal the Trust is doing... more
- - i still think... — peter parrot face, Wed May 16 14:23
    
    that the Trust will be the organisation that a majority of its members want it to be. For me, the more Wycombe fans that are members, the more democratic and representative the organisation has to... more
  - - well said ppf (nm) — Anonymous, Wed May 16 22:22
    - I don't understand how it is easier for .. — Ed, Wed May 16 14:56
      
      .. the trust to understand a member rather than a non-member.
    - - so I post my opinions — peter parrot face, Wed May 16 15:16
        
        on here as Wild Wally's Rock'n'Roll Show and expect the Trust to take everything on board and implement my suggestions? If the Trust had 1000 members and big important decisions were voted upon by... more
      - My opinions are not validated by the forum .. — Ed, Wed May 16 16:35
        
        .. in which they are aired, whether that be by sending a mail to those who run the club or by discussing them on a message board. I don't know whether you have a role with the Trust or you are simply ... more
        i didn't say — peter parrot face, Wed May 16 17:03
        You said that there was more chance .. — Ed, Wed May 16 17:42
        
        .. of the shambles being avoided if members raise objections and then when I said that I didn't understand what the difference was between a member and a non-member raising the issue, you poured... more
        I didn't mean... — peter parrot face, Wed May 16 20:35
        
        to pour scorn on you posting your opinion on the Gasroom, that would be strange as I've probably posted over 100,000 words on here myself over more than ten years. What I would say is that during the ... more
        Re: My opinions are not validated by the forum .. — Baldric, Wed May 16 16:47
        
        I understand the point you are trying to make in that your views should not be given more weight just because you have contributed some cash to express them, but I am genuinely struggling to... more
        You make a pertient point regarding how the model — Benny, Wed May 16 17:21
        
        was ineffective in the past under the Chairmanship of Ivor Beeks. He needs to resign and allow others who at least have the will to make it work in future. If he remains the club will remain his... more
        And if enough people want to see a different — Tory Goon, Wed May 16 19:40
        
        Chairman then it will be down to members to put in place a replacement. Members must take responsibility for their actions.
        It should form part of the takeover discussions — Benny, Wed May 16 19:45
        
        It would be far better to make a clean break now. After all, you have twice publicly asked Ivor Beeks to resign yourself.
        I have but was not supported in that view — Tory Goon, Wed May 16 19:56
        
        If you recall I also stepped down from the Trust Board due to their choice of Director. I was the one in the minority so I stepped down. It's called democracy. It doesn't always work but is... more
        You did the right thing by stepping down — Benny, Wed May 16 20:05
        
        I think if Mr Beeks remains in post I shall choose not to join the Trust. Exercise my democratic choice. I don't see there being any real improvement in moving from a dictatorship to a fiefdom. I am... more
        And by joining you will need to rely on others — Tory Goon, Wed May 16 20:10
        
        To remove him. Personally I would rather play a more active role in getting rid of him should that prove necessary.
        Sounds like 2004 all over again — Benny, Wed May 16 20:15
        
        If that's the case I'll leave it to others to take part in the pantomime.
        'not' joining obviously... (nm) — Tory Goon, Wed May 16 20:15
        
        That doesn't bode well — Anonymous, Wed May 16 19:44
        
        if their previous actions are anything to go by.
        Re: You make a pertient point regarding how the model — Baldric, Wed May 16 17:28
        
        I'm always glad to make at least one pertinent point per post! But whilst I understand the need for the Trust to be as large as possible to be as effective as possible I'm still unclear what sort of... more
        Absolutely — Benny, Wed May 16 17:36
        
        There are a number of issue regarding structure, influence and effectiveness which need to be discussed and agreed in the next 12-36 months once any takeover has been agreed.
  - Spot on Ed (nm) — Benny, Wed May 16 09:58
- Just how are they going to run the club? — Booker blue, Tue May 15 20:36
  
  Sad reality is you need money and they haven,t got enough to survive. And where is the experience in running a football club - certainly not the same as selling cranberries. The concern now should be ... more
- - The most dismal post on here (nm) — Anonymous, Wed May 16 06:46
  - Experience? — Doob, Tue May 15 21:57
    
    Hayes had no experience of running a football club either. He had plenty of money tho and the result is millions of debt and we're lower down the league then when he appeared - with his 5 year plan.... more
  - Assumptions, assumptions, assumptions — My Only Wycombe, Tue May 15 21:54
    
    How do you know how much money the Trust has and that it is 'not enough'? Do you know enough about the people involved in the Trust to throw out their ability and experience in 'running a football... more
  - Re: Just how are they going to run the club? — Anonymous, Tue May 15 20:50
    
    This seems the reality to me, hopefully I'm wrong. It's a nice idea that the fans could potentially run the club, but it shouldn't be the expense of not having the financial power to take it forward.
  - - Do you not think the Trust might have asked — Tory Goon, Tue May 15 21:03
      
      The same questions? And unlike you they've been asking the question for months/years rather than hours/days?
- Depends on what has been agreed, so the sooner we — Twiggy, Tue May 15 20:19
  
  Are told, the better. My 2 season tickets, and possibly a box, will be confirmed when I know the details.
- - Re: Depends on what has been agreed, so the sooner we — Anonymous, Wed May 16 07:27
    
    Show some faith, go for it now and help make it happen. I am (but not the box)

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