Re: The (Obvious) Trouble Is, Mr Anon. Is That This Is The ---
Wed Jun 13, 2012 09:39
'But those who voted for/supported these policies really have nothing at all to moan about re what we look like we are about to go through in the short/medium term.'
I think that is perfectly reasonable but don't confuse 'voted for' with 'supporting'. Everybody I know that voted for Hayes did so through gritted teeth. I suspect (but of course cannot prove) that the process we are going through now is far preferable to what would have happened if the 'no' lobby had won in 2009 when Hayes could simply have taken his ball away and left the club and those to whom it meant so much in utter chaos.
I think we all knew where we wanted to be, it was just the tactics on which we differed.
---first of many sad (but very necessary) cuts to our expediture that simply will have to be made if we are to have any decent (or even any at all) long-term future. We are just going to have to... more
Re: The (Obvious) Trouble Is, Mr Anon. Is That This Is The --- Pam Sadarka,Wed Jun 13 09:39
---know that many eligible voters, if arrive at that conclusion. Anyway, are you forgetting the July 2004 vote ? This was included in the timelines of my original post. Back then, we had approx... more
So you know everybody that voted do you? With this level of argument no wonder the standard of opposition to the constitutional changes was so poor. I do not claim to speak for everybody, just those... more
In fact the tone of the meetings in 04 and 09 was that if you voted against Hayes you wanted Wycombe Wanderers to play on the Rye. Many of us made sensible, impassioned arguments in favour of a... more
I agree that the tone from Hayes and the board was that if you voted against him you were a 'flat Earther'. That doesn't in itself say that 'yes' voters swallowed this line, more likely that they... more
If either vote had gone a different way. If there had been a no vote in 2004 maybe Hayes would have walked away and we would have had to cut our cloth a bit sooner. We may not have had the on field... more
for the 2009 vote, you missed out the most probable scenario. That was had the vote gone against Hayes taking ownership, the he would put the club into administration, as was spelled out by the Trust ... more
A noteable feature of the 'movement for change' in both 2004 and 2009 were the explicit threats that without change we were on the way to hell in a handcart. The main issue therefore was whether you... more
For what it is worth, I dont think a coherent alternative was presented for either vote. Much will depend onthe terms of the takeover now, but for what it is worth, my view remains that a reluctant... more
to what the new investor was looking to do, and how much cash would be required in what format. I would seek to assess his background and history and connections with the club. I would then seek to... more