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Wed Jun 20, 2012 11:34
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I thought I was the only person who thought it hadn't gone in! From the main camera angle it looked over the line, but from the camera directly above the line I didn't think the whole of the ball was over the whole of the line. It was certainly very tight but there was no daylight between the ball and the line and I wasn't convinced it should've been a goal.

But the whole thing was offside anyway, so it's all elementary!

  • am I the only person in the world — our frank, Wed Jun 20 10:13
    who is unconvinced that the whole ball was over the line last night? As I saw it, it was very tight and the extra official on the byeline was better placed to judge than the camera or anybody else.... more
    • first time i saw it, i didn't think so — ruiz, Wed Jun 20 18:33
      now, yes i do admit it crossed the line, but it was almost impossible to make a call in that split second. Another case for goal line technology.
    • The only person I was watching the game with — tax dodge wherever you may be, Wed Jun 20 18:25
      who declared he was unconvinced it had fully crossed the line changed his tune when he saw it was Terry who attempted to stop it from going over the line, and proceeded to berate him for not stopping ... more
    • Re: am I the only person in the world — Sideliner, Wed Jun 20 17:14
      No you're not. No one where I was watching thought that ALL the ball crossed ALL the line. Maybe only 1 inch didn't cross, but that's enough. No goal.
    • No you're not. — Lord Mandeville, Wed Jun 20 16:01
      I'm certainly not sure that all of the ball was over the line and the extra official also was not sure. So I make that at least 3 people in the world.
    • I'm pretty sure if it was based on the DRS — LeedsBlue, Wed Jun 20 15:18
      it would be close enough to be "umpire's call". But then again, in the same way as they check the 'no ball' first, so they would have checked for any other infringements in the build up and - bless... more
    • Re: am I the only person in the world — Anonymous, Wed Jun 20 11:52
      Quite frankly it doesn't matter what we all think. We can analyse it to death and throw in as many "it was offside anyway"s as we want too. Fact is, on the night the referee didn't award a goal, for... more
    • I was reading the Guardian this morning — eric plant, Wed Jun 20 11:42
      and their report suggested it was a foot over the line ridiculous
    • No — Quartered Chair, Wed Jun 20 11:34
    • guy who scored it was offside anyway — Anonymous, Wed Jun 20 11:20
      "evens itself out over a season"
    • No You are not — TMT, Wed Jun 20 11:01
      There is no way you can judge that the back of the ball had totally cleared the line because of the post, however the line judge bloke should have been able to see this clearly.
    • Yes you are (nm) — Anonymous, Wed Jun 20 10:46
    • Yes, you probably are — Anonymous, Wed Jun 20 10:35
      • and yet — our frank, Wed Jun 20 12:33
        doesn't that picture make my point for me: that the white blur that is probably the ball is not distinct from the white blur which is certainly the crossbar - i.e. that the whole ball cannot... more
        • No, I don't think it does — Anonymous, Wed Jun 20 15:06
          It shows the ball is clearly distinct from the crossbar / goal-line due to the visible grass between both objects. When used together with the video replay as linked by P-Bo I think the evidence that ... more
        • You can see — Anonymous, Wed Jun 20 13:06
          A: grass between the ball and the line B: Terry's white shorts between the ball and the line
    • I thought it was pretty clearly over the line — JSwwfc, Wed Jun 20 10:33
      and the extra officials are a bit pointless really. It also looked as though he was more in line with the post than the ball itself, which may or may not have impeded his ability to see. Nonetheless, ... more
    • frankly yes — P-Bo, Wed Jun 20 10:30
      http://www.nowpublic.com/sports/england-ukraine-disallowed-goal-video-2012-john-terry-makes-save-2946682.html
      • probably so, but is that camera — NH, Wed Jun 20 10:43
        in line with the line? I don't think so - the crossbar is not aligned with the line.
        • definately a goal — Anonymous, Wed Jun 20 11:06
          but it still went past the bar and the line
          • Re: definately a goal — AC, Wed Jun 20 11:30
            Somebody please explain why the extra official on the goal line is on the same side of the pitch as the 'linesman'? Would it not be better for him to be on the opposite side of the pitch to cover... more
            • Re: definately a goal — Wig and Pen, Thu Jun 21 12:49
              Maybe too late for this reply but...the ref runs on a diagonal line, corner to opposite corner at the other end; the linesmen run the line down to the corner the ref isn't covering at their end. The... more
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