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TTR: October 30, 2013

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Take a gander at the excerpt of the upcoming historical novel I'm working on, which I've tentatively called THE RECKONING. Easy to guess who it's about. I have to wait to see what I find for Bill Evans out at Cottonwood Springs before I finish the novel, but my website will give you a taste of ONE of the things I want to do with my findings. Have a look!

http://montanadawn.com/The_Earp_Brothers.html

And while you're there, you can read the first chapter of my upcoming book: SOAPY: WHEN THE LEGEND BECAME FACT, at

http://montanadawn.com/Soapy__Legend_and_Truth.html

Cathy Spude

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Cathy, you can use my blog and discussion board to reply... — Jeff Smith, Mon Aug 3 04:54

Cathy, you can use my blog and discussion board to reply... Website: Alias Soapy Smith Blog: Soapy Smith's Soap Box Forum: Soapy Smith Discussion Forum
- Jeff...we also posted... — OldWestHistory.Net, Tue Aug 4 17:16
  
  your links at http://www.oldwesthistory.net G.S. McLelland OldWestHistory.Net
- - Thank you Gary. (nm) — Jeff Smith, Tue Aug 4 17:21
- Jeff & Cathy...... — Michael F. Blake, Mon Aug 3 09:19
  
  this "tit for tat" postings are getting old and childish. Honestly, it makes me NOT want to read either of your works. Put a sock in it, please. Michael F. Blake
- - Michael, I already... — Jeff Smith, Mon Aug 3 10:48
    
    Michael, I have already invited Cathy over to my blog and board to continue our debate. Sorry to have bothered you, however, I have received four emails from people interested in the facts of the... more
  - - Who would believe your "email" stories? — K.t.K., Tue Aug 4 21:11
      
      In the wake of your false claims of corresponding with me via email (not to mention similar crap about Peter Brand), it tends to fall on deaf ears. Any good bunco man should be more innovative. I'll... more
    - - Hi, Kenny... — Jeff Smith, Tue Aug 4 21:44
        
        Kenny, don't fret. Keep looking in your family tree and you're bound to eventually find somebody there as interesting as the Smiths and Baggs. Until then why don't you make stuff up, you're pretty... more
    - Seems like you want to "control" it Jeff. — Larry K, Tue Aug 4 10:45
      
      I don't see Cathy putting up your first chapter and tearing into it on her site. Why not wait until both books are out? Is this how you want to promote your book?
    - - Larry K... — Jeff Smith, Tue Aug 4 12:14
        
        Hello, Larry K., People on all the boards post articles from other websites and discuss the content. Here on BJ's I have seen many do the same, debating the pros or cons. Am I not allowed the same... more
Re: For some light reading... — Mark Dworkin, Sat Aug 1 06:50

Cathy, I hope you won't allow personal attacks to stop you from posting here. I know you understand such attacks come with the territory, and in any event, what happens on Internet discussion forums... more
- Mark Dworkin — Jeff Smith, Sat Aug 1 07:49
  
  So you condone what she is doing to me? I have the emails from November-December 2006 as proof. What she is doing to me angers me to no end, let alone is dead wrong, and no one can understand that?... more
- - Re: Mark Dworkin — Mark Dworkin, Sat Aug 1 08:29
    
    Jeff, That is a sucker's question. She has offered to take the discussion off-line. That is where it belongs. I'll not comment again. Mark
  - - Mark... — Jeff Smith, Sat Aug 1 08:41
      
      Don't need to comment again Mark. As long as others know what Cathy is doing, and capable of, then I am satisfied. Forewarned is forearmed. Jeff Smith
Cathy — Larry K, Fri Jul 31 08:24

I tried to email you from your website but it doesn't go through. Do you have another email? Larry
- Email — Cathy Spude, Fri Jul 31 11:03
  
  Larry: How strange. It worked fine for me. Try montdawn@msn.com Cathy
- - Re: Email — Larry K, Fri Jul 31 12:34
    
    When I tried to email the first time, the site added a "+" sign at the beginning of the address, I tried again without the plus sign. Did you get the email? It's regarding TTR. Larry
Dear Cathy... — Jeff Smith, Thu Jul 30 06:41

Legend, -noun. A nonhistorical or unverifiable story handed down by tradition from earlier times and popularly accepted as historical. Dear Cathy, in regards to your strong belief that my great... more
- Copyright — Cathy Spude, Fri Jul 31 07:53
  
  By the way, Jeff. Did you notice the copyright notice at the bottom of my website page? Cathy
- - I am aware of copyright law. (nm) — Jeff Smith, Fri Jul 31 08:12
  - - Copyright law — Cathy Spude, Fri Jul 31 11:08
      
      I ask the discussion group: Does Jeff infringe on my rights by copying my Foreword and first chapter, including a privately owned photograph, placing them on his website, without my footnotes, and... more
    - - Sorry Cathy... — Jeff Smith, Fri Jul 31 12:35
        
        Sorry Cathy, I am within the law. Your words are on your public website and I copied and placed them on my blog, giving you full credit. My "interspaced" opinions are in bright red and clearly... more
      - Credit and Copyright — Cathy Spude, Fri Jul 31 13:12
        
        I always give credit where credit is due. If you read my published works, you will see that, as is the rule with professional historical works, primary sources are credited, not personal... more
        Credit and Copyright... — Jeff Smith, Fri Jul 31 13:39
        
        You write, "I always give credit where credit is due. If you read my published works, you will see that, as is the rule with professional historical works, primary sources are credited, not personal... more
        Re: Credit — Cathy Spude, Fri Jul 31 14:54
        
        Do you think you are the only person in the world doing this research, and the only one doing in 1998 and before? I encountered Sam Steele's letter long before then... Jeff Brady published a summary... more
        This is why... — Jeff Smith, Fri Jul 31 15:58
        
        You Cathy Spude, are a liar. She knows it, so I say the following to those who are interested. When I first met Cathy, via email, in 2006 she did not believe that anyone other than Frank Reid killed... more
        My Final Word — Cathy Spude, Sat Aug 1 08:42
        
        You don't know what you are talking about, Jeff. I am writing the biography of Josias M. Tanner, the man who led the group who captured and arrested much of Smith's gang after Smith was killed. I... more
        Hi Cathy — K.t.K., Sat Aug 1 19:21
        
        Without compromising your work on Josias M. Tanner, could you possibly give an estimate of how many men were in the Soup Gang at the end? My interest is not so much in Soupy, but identifying the... more
        Soapy's Gang — Cathy Spude, Sun Aug 2 08:41
        
        It wouldn't compromise my work on Tanner at all! To tell you the truth, Jeff Smith probably knows that a lot better than I do. It certainly wasn't the 200-300 that the National Park Service mentioned ... more
        Re: Soapy's Gang — K.t.K., Sun Aug 2 20:06
        
        Cathy, 40 would be two "scores." This source from the Gazette (Colorado)Telegraph - 12/17/1898, supports such a liberal number by mentioning "....Ex-U.S. Marshal Taylor, “Old Man” Tripp, Bowers,... more
        If anyone follows my blogs they would know... — Jeff Smith, Sun Aug 2 20:16
        
        Anyone who follows my blogs knows where 'ole Ken found his information, lol. Jeff Smith
        THANKS, Cathy! (nm) — K.t.K., Sun Aug 2 11:23
        
        Lol. (nm) — Jeff Smith, Sun Aug 2 13:02
        
        My Final Word as well... — Jeff Smith, Sat Aug 1 09:41
        
        I know exactly what I am talking about... and so do you. I gave you nothing? ...Except photographs and information. Yes, that was my fault for trusting you. Jeff Brady obtained his information from... more
        The Sing = The Sting. (nm) — Jeff Smith, Sat Aug 1 09:46
      - For what it's worth — Larry K, Fri Jul 31 12:32
        
        My opinion that is... I think it's rude at best. Larry
- Can't Wait... — Cathy Spude, Thu Jul 30 09:24
  
  for ALIAS SOAPY, Jeff. I know it will contain a great deal of new, previously unpublished material, especially family letters and photographs. If you have evidence that proves my assertations... more
- - You are in for a treat... — Jeff Smith, Thu Jul 30 10:40
    
    First, I wish to make it very clear that Cathy is centering on Skagway, Alaska here. There is far more to Soapy Smith than just Alaska, a mere eleven months of his very dangerous and exciting life.... more
  - - Read LEGEND — Cathy Spude, Sun Aug 2 17:41
      
      Finally had the time to read through all of your comments about my introduction on your blog, Jeff. Actually nothing there that I didn't expect from the descendent of Soapy. It really is too bad... more
    - - Excuse me? — Christina Marshall, Sat May 8 07:55
        
        "Actually nothing there that I didn't expect from the descendent of Soapy" I beg your pardon?? Would you be good enough to explain exactly what you mean by that comment? I am also a descendant of... more
      - Lol, well I guess it continues... — Jeff Smith, Sun Aug 2 19:58
        
        Regarding my blog , your words and my responses are there for all to make up their own minds. You write, I know we could have helped each other out from the very beginning, if you hadn't kept jumping ... more
    - Let's go offline — Cathy Spude, Fri Jul 31 07:45
      
      Jeff: I'm sure BJ's history forum isn't interested in our private discussion, and I'd love to discuss this subject in more depth with you. I've been tempted to share my entire manuscript with you, so ... more
    - - I'd be most willing to debate with you... — Jeff Smith, Fri Jul 31 08:11
        
        I'd be most willing to debate the history of Soapy Smith with you on-line, but I am not interested in speaking with you off-line. Jeff Smith
    - I see that Shea wrote another book... (nm) — Jeff Smith, Thu Jul 30 10:58

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