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Jeff Morey
Nick's secret source...
Mon Apr 9, 2012 12:07

Since Nick Rogers is loath to reveal the sources of many of his dogmatic claims, his source for how long the wounded cow-boys lived after the street fight deserves recognition. Randall P. Morton, was a noted race horse trainer in Tombstone. On the day of the street fight, Morton used his celebrated stop-watch to time how long each of the cow-boys lived after being shot. Nick has Morton's diary for 1881. Morton was very secretive and wrote his diary entries in ancient Greek. Luckily, Nick also writes his own diary in ancient Greek, So, it was simple for Mr. Rogers to translate Morton's precise documentation of how long the wounded cow-boys lived after being shot. Nick obtained the old diary from the great, great grandson of Randall P. Morton, Throckmorton P. Morton III.

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  • Crabtree Doctor's accountbfrey, Sun Apr 8 05:38
    I read that the Doctor who treated Billy Clanton at the scene of the gunfight, testified that Billy told him he could die happy if he could just sink his teeth into that sob's neck. A couple... more
    • Really Nick? Boyer nonsense again? (nm)Larry K, Tue Apr 10 11:45
    • Problems with Giberson testimonyPam Potter, Mon Apr 9 19:36
      There are a lot of problems with Dr. Giberson's testimony. First he referred to Billy as Cranton, although that could have been a misunderstanding by the attorneys or the court reporter. I think... more
      • thanks for the clarification...bfrey, Tue Apr 10 06:32
        Thanks for the background. Is Dr.Giberson's testimony available anywhere to read? Are there other Tombstone residents that testified? Thanks
        • Re: thanks for the clarification...Pam Potter, Tue Apr 10 08:30
          It is only available from the Harvard Law Library. It is part of the Lotta Crabtree Will Case. I spent several days at the Law library researching the case. Dr. Giberson was the doctor who took care... more
    • Dr. Giberson bfrey, Sun Apr 8 08:15
      Dr.Giberson's account from the Crabtree trial is the only place that I see this stated by a dying Billy Clanton. Clanton apparently lived for about an hour...
      • Nick's secret source... — Jeff Morey, Mon Apr 9 12:07
        • 8.5 out of 10, Jeff (nm)Peter Love, Tue Apr 10 07:37
          • 8.5 out of 10 isn't bad.Jeff Morey, Tue Apr 10 13:42
            Peter, 8.5 out of 10 isn't bad. The point I was trying to make was that precise assertions, no matter how confidently made, are no better than the evidence for those assertions. Whenever anyone... more
            • Where is your evidenceolds, Tue Apr 10 15:06
              that it is "difficult to understand"?
              • Well, I don't understand Nick.Jeff Morey, Tue Apr 10 23:27
                Bruce, Well, I don't understand Nick's tendency to make assertions without providing proper sources for those assertions. For instance, on several occasions, Nick has dogmatically claimed that Doc... more
                • That was tongue-in-cheek.olds, Wed Apr 11 06:57
                  At times, however, it amuses me, how pathologically obsessive certain folks are about such issues. But that's just me. I reckon we wouldn't be here, on this site, if we all weren't pathologically... more
                  • Re: That was tongue-in-cheek.Jeff Morey, Wed Apr 11 07:40
                    Bruce, Perhaps I am "pathologically obsessive" while Nick is "obsessively pathological" when it comes to documentation. So, how did the phrase "tongue-in-cheek" originate? When I put my tongue in my... more
        • Dr Gilberson's testimonybfrey, Mon Apr 9 12:23
          Is there anymore to his testimony concerning Tombstone, are there any other Tombstone Old timers that gave testimony in the Crabtree case?
          • question..bfrey, Mon Apr 9 15:48
            How do I contact him?
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