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bfrey
interesting question
Tue Aug 15, 2017 07:53
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I guess we assume he was a coward because he didnt take up the fight when his group was confronted by the Earp's. He wasn't armed and engaged Wyatt during a gunfight, hardly the actions of a total coward. Marching around Tombstone looking for a gunfight with a rifle is also not very cowardly?

I think the balancing piece of the the puzzle would be alcohol and his actions when drunk? It has also been speculated that he used cocaine for his headaches that would also give him a "puffed up image of himself"? Maybe not so cowardly as just plain reckless with alcohol? No judgement when he got to that point, courage in a bottle?

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    • interesting question — bfrey, Tue Aug 15 07:53
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                      Is your email posted on line? I have something to send you.
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      I've spent a little time in that part of AZ---my favorite place these days. I would guess it would be a tough trip from Springerville to St. John's in '86 with a bullet in your hip.
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