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Tom Gaumer
Quickly also
Wed Aug 30, 2017 19:02

Howdy Gary

Think of the contribution Jeff Morey could have made by making the chronology you mentioned public with assorted information we would have all longed to see, especially from him!

Think of the contribution those with available copies of the Epitaph or Nugget or both could have made by making that information public with all the annotation they wanted!

Assuming Hayhurst and Turner were able to copy a few things right, I think the judgment about the Prosecution lawyers approach to Williams is they were pretty bad. They had him repeat the damaging testimony almost word for word. Then they had him back it up with testimony about his good perception of who was in the room with him and Behan. Then they missed several chances to attack his credibility, at least a bit. In the process of having his credibility attacked, if it made him mad, Williams might have made some more mistakes that could be used against him.

If these types of lawyers had to face aggressive modern lawyers they could have easily ended up running from the court room and seeking safe space in the fetal position in their closets

Keep Laughing

  • QuicklyGary Roberts, Wed Aug 30 12:13
    The Hayhurst ms is confusing because witnesses are not presented in the correct chronological order. In preparing a correct chronological sequence the newspapers are essential. Jeff Morey prepared... more
    • Quickly also — Tom Gaumer, Wed Aug 30 19:02
      • You might want to check . . . Gary Roberts, Thu Aug 31 14:27
        the archive on Texas Jack's board. In February 2010, Butch Badon and I had a lengthy discussion there of the Hayhurst and comparisons to the various versions of the Spicer from Turner, the EPITAPH,... more
        • Will do. When do you think one Tom Gaumer, Fri Sep 1 02:10
          Gary of the people who have the available copies of the Nuggets and Epitaphs will allow them to be copied and placed in BJ's history archives or printed up and distributed to anyone who wants them?... more
          • discrepanciespaul j, Fri Sep 1 09:05
            Tom and all - If you go about typing up what exists of the Hayhurst ms (it is already a typescript, isn't it?)- then type up all the Epitaph reporting of the testimony, and follow with the Nugget... more
            • Howdy PaulTom Gaumer, Fri Sep 1 19:04
              I think the Hayhurst exists, perhaps at ASU in Tempe. There is another book length manuscript by Hayhurst there only indirectly related. I think anything can be done online if you know the magic. I... more
            • If I may stick my nose in here...Ben Harleman, Fri Sep 1 12:54
              I don't know about an online program, but MS Office can handle it. I've already taken most all of the documents from here and transcribed them into a digital book format for me to use on my tablet... more
              • Please stick your nose in. All help appreciatedTom Gaumer, Fri Sep 1 19:11
                Howdy Ben It sounds to me like your four columns with the summary notes would be great for any of us with an interest in this. What part of the country do you live in? Are you planning to attend TTR... more
                • Howdy TomBen Harleman, Fri Sep 1 20:45
                  Hi Tom, unfortunately I just moved back to Seattle from Phoenix (Goodyear, to be specific) the first of August. However, I was talking to my wife about going back down in possibly October or November ... more
                  • TTR October 25 to 29 (nm)Tom Gaumer, Sat Sep 2 18:21
                    • TTR DatesBen Harleman, Mon Sep 4 03:32
                      Thank you, Tom. I marked the dates and discussed with my wife, and at this point am expecting to be there. I'm definitely looking forward.
                  • Thanks BenTom Gaumer, Sat Sep 2 00:59
                    Let's see what can be done. Tom
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