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Tom Gaumer
Re: Aurilla Earp article in the WWHA Journal
Mon Jul 9, 2018 10:56
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Howdy Wayne

I think Mr McArdle case was that her death is not documented, and he SUspects that it didn't happen but with no real evidence she lived on.

If memory serves Mr. McArdle said that death records were not officially kept at that time in that place.

He makes a case Urilla's death is not noted in the newspaper. However other researchers have noted the newspaper rarely carried such news and was mostly about business. Mr. McArdle only mentioned two examples of deaths being noted over the time he was examining the newspaper during Urilla's life. While hers should, in theory, have been covered, the fact it was not is not greatly significant considering only two were covered according to Mr. McArdles reporting for that period. That is much more likely to establish the newspaper covered such things rarely rather than diligently in my opinion.

The fact there is no gravestone is certainly curious. Although a number of Earp relatives there assert she did die and was buried in one of several graveyards. One witness even saying exactly where she was buried and another who maintained the graveyard saying he knew she was buried there.
Mc Ardle acknowledges these local sources for Urilla's death and burial while questioning their accuracy.

Also Wyatt Earp did sell his house and leave with no evidence he was not alone. That is an indication Urilla was gone but quite consistent with the story she had died that Wyatt told later.


It seems to me the fact she is not noted ever after Lamar, combined with the family remembrances of her death and Wyatt's statement she died should make that the assumed story, if there is going to be one. If someone can come up with any real reference to her being alive after that time, we could adjust opinions then. McArdle suggests such information is speculative at best.


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Tom





So their is local memory among the Earp family that she died and is buried there. There is no evidence she left and is noted anywhere else ever.




  • Aurilla Earp article in the WWHA JournalWayne Sanderson, Sat Jun 23 16:15
    Below is a comment I originally posted elsewhere as an analysis of the Aurilla Sutherland Earp article in the current WWHA Journal. The commentary is based on the new information and commentary in... more
    • Re: Aurilla Earp article in the WWHA Journal — Tom Gaumer, Mon Jul 9 10:56
      • Aurilla Earp article in WWHAgka500, Mon Jul 9 21:32
        Tom (and Wayne) Mr. McArdle was speculating intending to encourage more research into Aurilla's death. I agree with Tom that there is no evidence either of her death, or her living on beyond 1870.... more
        • Re: Aurilla Earp article in WWHATom Gaumer, Tue Jul 10 17:16
          Howdy Gail The general story about Wyatt has been he sold his and Urilla's house in early Nov. of 1870 and moved on. There are no missing editions of the South West Missourian before that period,... more
          • Aurilla's possible survivalgka500, Wed Jul 11 22:08
            Tom, Wow excellent review of the evidence on Aurilla Sutherland Earp. To make my position clear, I don't think it at all likely that Aurilla survived past 1870. However, think it would be good if... more
            • It looks like we agree on everythingTom Gaumer, Fri Jul 13 15:55
              Gail I just got an email telling me about this Aurilla factoid. It should make the answer pretty clear about Aurilla's fate. It won't seal the case but reasonable people should be able to put it to... more
              • Aurilla factoidgka500, Fri Jul 13 16:03
                Tom, I would never expect you to jump the gun on announcing a new find. That, of course, belongs to the finder. I just hope, once announced, I assume at the WWHA meeting, you or someone else will... more
          • Hard at work...Ben Harleman , Tue Jul 10 19:40
            Tom, I am currently at work tenaciously tracking down credible sources to confirm the dust levels contained in Wyatt's belly button. Watch for a riveting article in the next joutnal. Seriously... more
          • Surprise coming about AurillaTom Gaumer, Tue Jul 10 18:13
            Gail and all There is one more source of information that I just heard about and Mr. McArdle apparently did not find. It might settle the question of when Aurilla Sutherland died. Stay tuned to the... more
            • Re: Surprise coming about AurillaErik, Wed Jul 25 17:22
              Hey Tom, When is this discussion panel getting together in Springfield, MO? Will it be recorded? Very interesting thread, y'all! Thanks, Tom.
    • Aurilla Lamar , Sat Jun 23 19:58
      What if Aurilla was carrying the love child of Big Foot and was abducted by space aliens?
    • "town didnít prosecute Wyatt Earp" (?)K.t.K., Sat Jun 23 19:35
      People fly the coop so that they cannot be prosecuted. That's what Wyatt did. "Behind closed doors" doesn't quite match with the document records. They wanted his hind-end badly. He and his dad both... more
      • As always...Ben Harleman, Sat Jun 23 20:34
        ... a lot of great information. Lee Silva, when reviewing the Lamar and horse thief episodes, also made a bit of a case that the town originally charged Wyatt but later seemed to not pursue it when... more
        • Re: As always...K.t.K., Sun Jun 24 16:58
          Ben, Silva did a lot of speculating also - which we all have the right to do. But he did admit that Wyatt fled Lamar, just the same as did Nicholas. Choosing not to pursue a suspect who has fled had... more
    • Re: Aurilla Earp article in the WWHA JournalBen Harleman, Sat Jun 23 16:51
      The question that comes to mind from all of this, which I agree is thought provoking, is if a runaway wife would be enough to prompt such a tight-lipped nature? And I'm sincerely asking, because I... more
      • Re: Aurilla Earp article in the WWHA JournalWayne Sanderson, Sat Jun 23 19:44
        Virgilís situation was different. He marched away to war, and when he returned she and her whole family had moved west. She was apparently led to believe Virgil was dead. If that was the case and he... more
        • Aurilla Earp PhotosEddie Lanham, Mon Jun 25 03:44
          Does anyone know if these pictures of her have been documented? https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/8309383/urilla-earp/photo
          • fake photosJohn Boessenecker, Mon Jun 25 21:26
            All photos posted online by Paul Butler and Blue Brown are fakes. I'm not even sure if those names they use are real.
        • Wayne, there are a few things you are not understanding in regards to the Cherokee Nations episode. About 85 miles down the trail out of Missouri into Indian Nations was located a settlement called... more
          • Kenny, like almost all of your posts, this was very enlightening. However, I am a little confused that you never mention the announced subject of the post, "Virgil's second wife at Lamar - Rozilla... more
            • Oh, you must mean Rozella DrageauK.t.K., Mon Jun 25 12:48
              :<) Oh, I forgot how many spellings there are. Anyway, Wayne above had mentioned Virgil's first wife from Pella, Iowa. My heading was meant as a quick reminder that the Dutch girl didn't factor... more
        • Re: Aurilla Earp article in the WWHA JournalBen Harleman, Sat Jun 23 21:12
          Those are the mitigating factors, and with clear differences to be sure, but while I do agree that the lack of info and reporting about her death is intriguing, I'm not sure I agree that it's enough... more
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