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Billy on National Geo Channel
Tue Jul 24, 2018 18:08
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A couple on the program tried to get provenance on the Billy the Kid plays croquet photo. In the end it was verified as authentic in 2015... I've seen this picture several times and it has always been discredited. Does anyone have some info? Thanks.

  • Billy the Kid & SiberiaDaniel Buck, Tue Jul 24 08:24
    "‘Rare photo of wild west outlaw Billy the Kid worth $5 million’ turns up in Siberia" SIBERIAN TIMES, 9 July 2018:... more
    • Billy on National Geo Channel — Erik Hewitt, Tue Jul 24 18:08
      • Re: Billy on National Geo ChannelDaniel Buck, Tue Jul 24 18:26
        Erick, If you Google croquet + Billy the Kid + True West you will find several excellent articles about the croquet Billy tintype controversy. You can read the articles and come to your own... more
        • location, location, location....Erik, Tue Jul 24 20:16
          The facial recognition expert said it was considered a match being over 80% match. Then he said he'd deny it in court. I don't see how any points could be matched as "Billy" in the photo's face is... more
          • 80% ain't what it used to beDaniel Buck, Wed Jul 25 05:14
            Erik, found this quiote ths morning, from the 4 November 2017 Daily Press, Victorville California:... more
            • Billy the Kid Mystery Solved!???Jerry Prather, Sun Jul 29 12:06
              For some reason, this popped up on my screen while I was looking at YouTube this morning. Since I had 15 minutes and 53 seconds to waste, I watched it. 100% of 80% of 60%, or whatever it is, will... more
              • High NoonPam Potter, Tue Jul 31 10:58
                I have been to a few of the High Noon Auctions but not sure which years. I was there in 2015 or 16. There was a guy set up with some pictures that we all walked by rolling our eyes. Because someone... more
                • At High NoonJerry, Wed Aug 1 05:32
                  Hello Pam, I have only been to the High Noon event twice. Last time about a year and a half ago. I think you and Dan are correct that the photo was on display in a booth there and was not for sale in ... more
              • Re: Billy the Kid Mystery Solved!???Daniel Buck, Sun Jul 29 13:49
                Jerry. Thanks. I think I saw that image some time ago, but I do not recall the circumstances. Marc Geyer, the narrator and perhaps agent/seller for the photo's owner, is a tad misleading in dropping... more
          • Re: location, location, location....Daniel Buck, Wed Jul 25 03:20
            Erik, Exactly, the Nat Geo/Fox recruited facial recognition expert Kent Gibson said it was an 80% match it was Billy but that he would deny it was Billy in court, that is, under oath. The two... more
            • Dan, You are a man of many words.Eddie Lanham, Thu Jul 26 14:00
              Dan, In the last 5 years, I have only seen one recently discovered photo that somewhat resembled a Old West character. You know which one I am referring to, and that is between you and I.... more
              • truth about HoffaK.t.K., Thu Jul 26 20:33
                American contract hit-man Richard Kuklinski, while rotting away in prison, was finally approached by an interviewer in regards to what Kuklinski might know about the demise of Hoffa. Richard said he... more
                • Re: truth about HoffaSteve Gatto, Fri Jul 27 07:16
                  Jimmy Hoffa was buried in a secluded location in Michigan. A Hoffa associate took myself and a friend to the location around 10 years ago after the individual was released from federal prison. My... more
                  • Thanks GattoAnonymous, Fri Jul 27 10:27
                    I was wondering if you had thoughts on what Hoffa's driver had to say? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZxbAySuv67Q
                    • Re: Thanks GattoSteve Gatto, Fri Jul 27 13:45
                      The driver may have heard some comment and took that to mean that was where Hoffa was buried (in the foundation) of the building. However, based on what the Hoffa associate that lived on Rolland... more
                    • Hoffa driver is me (nm)K.t.K., Fri Jul 27 10:29
                • That was almost not even humorous.Erik, Thu Jul 26 23:25
                  Kornfer? Kansas Kenny? I've had enough of you insulting me after posts go down 10 pages. You got something to say, say it out front. You want to meet me? Step outside.
              • Re: Dan, You are a man of many words.Daniel Buck, Thu Jul 26 18:58
                Eddie, yes, it's a sad fact that 99% of these wannabe photos are bogus. The Amelia Earhart image was an even more egregious example because the resolution was so bad one could not tell the gender or... more
                • Re: Dan, You are a man of many words.Erik, Thu Jul 26 23:06
                  ????? I didn't see that. Is this presented as some kind of evidence after she disappeared? To put something out like that, without impeccable, verifiable research? A downright disregard for their... more
                  • Re: Dan, You are a man of many words.Daniel Buck, Fri Jul 27 03:28
                    Erik, It's television, in this case, the History Channel. History as clickbait. There will never be a television program titled "Local Man Buys $5 Tintype, Not Billy the Kid, Still Worth $5." The... more
            • algorithm shmalgorithmErik Hewitt, Wed Jul 25 11:37
              Thanks Dan, When I saw the 80% match, I initially thought, "Well, it's not him." I assumed it would have to be 100%. Silly me. LOL!
              • Re: algorithm shmalgorithmDaniel Buck, Thu Jul 26 14:46
                Erik, Hre's what you get at 80% with Amazon Rekognition: https://www.cnet.com/news/amazon-facial-recognition-thinks-28-congressmen-look-like-known-criminals-at-default-settings/ Of course arresting... more
                • Howdy Dan! https://www.businessinsider.com/this-algorithm-finally-confirms-which-of-the-beatles-wrote-which-hits-2018-7 And a SIGNIFICANT discovery was made! Well, not really. It's interesting how... more
                  • Re: Algorithming Beatles songs? Saw this today.Daniel Buck, Tue Jul 31 05:14
                    Erik, These stories are fascinating, and this one might well have something, tho they normally just present the discoverer's point of view. The red team has not yet to be heard from. I recall, from... more
                    • Re: Algorithming Beatles songs? Saw this today.Erik Hewitt, Tue Jul 31 23:09
                      Yes, I agree about talented writers. "I've Just Seen a Face" is a good example of a Paul song that would fall into the Lennon model they set up. Trying to think of a Lennon song that would fit the... more
                • Re: algorithm shmalgorithmErik, Thu Jul 26 23:16
                  Likely guilty of something anyway... I'd also posit a McCarthy sweep though the whole damned system.
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