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Steve Gatto
Re: Article out of context ?
Thu Aug 16, 2018 09:34
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Several prosecution witnesses, including Allen, Behan, Claiborne, and Clanton stated that Tom McLowry opened his labels of his coat and said, I got no arms or something very similar. Ike told Behan before the fight that he had no gun.

Clum likely is just confusing some of the testimony in his later comments and I believe that he was not above expanded on details like other old-timers to make his story better.

  • Article out of context ?Pat Mulligan , Tue Aug 14 14:50
    I think the article may be a little out of context.If you read Clum"s statement it seems as if it was spoken to IKE directly. Check the quotation marks and the statement following, Ike got out... more
    • Re: Article out of context ? — Steve Gatto, Thu Aug 16 09:34
      • Re: Article out of context ?Peter Love, Fri Aug 17 18:49
        Steve Maybe the old guys did not obsess over the minutiae of this gunfight like we do, even though they were there for the whole drama. Still this reads to me like final confirmation for the doubters ... more
        • Re: Article out of context ?Steve Gatto, Sat Aug 18 06:42
          Peter, John Clum’s recollection was made decades after the gunfight so caution must be used when using his comments, like any old-timer's account, but at least he was provably in Tombstone at the... more
    • Re: Article out of context ?Bob Cash, Tue Aug 14 18:10
      Pat, you wrote: "I think the article may be a little out of context.If you read Clum"s statement it seems as if it was spoken to IKE directly. Check the quotation marks and the statement following,... more
      • RE : Bob CashPat Mulligan, Wed Aug 15 04:19
        I will have to review the testimony . My memory is getting faulty. Thanks for refresher. Possible the quote came from The Epitaph or the Nugget ?
        • Re: RE : Bob CashBob Cash, Wed Aug 15 09:48
          Pat, I was kind of surprised when I looked at the Turner version and did not find Ike or Wyatt recalling any words said by Ike as he was struggling with Wyatt after grabbing him. My memory is not... more
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