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Why Gary?
Thu Jan 10, 2019 09:13
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Why "focus on" the ways in which a certain technology works when there exist more ways in which that same technology either does not, or that the ways in which it does comes only at an unpalatable price, including rampant abuse? How does such a head-in-the-sand attitude make any sense whatever?

You suggest that we "monitor" the ways in which technology is being used by our local police, and that we "think about" our neighborhood Google trucks. So how, exactly, do you suggest that we perform such monitoring? And what is it precisely that we should be thinking? And once we have monitored and thought, then what?

As for privacy, sorry, but it doesn't exist anymore thanks to the very technology that you insist upon celebrating. The only way to ensure individual privacy at this late stage of the game is to live subterraneously off the grid, and how many of us are not only prepared, but can afford to do that?

What you seem to fail to understand is that it is the technology that controls us. We do not control it. And that this technology, digital technology, is invasively pernicious in a way that previous technologies, analog and pre-analog technologies, qualitatively were not. Or perhaps you do understand, but do not care as long as that technology can be exploited to your personal benefit. Personally, I have a problem with a reality that is virtual and an intelligence that is artificial, but hey, that's just me.

"Don't be the last to know," is perfectly good advice, but the more critical issue is, once we know, what the hell are we supposed to do with that knowledge?




  • Facial Recognition TechnologyGary Stover, Thu Jan 10 06:41
    For those of you who have concerns about privacy, and who among us doesn't, your focus should be not on how facial recognition doesn't work, but on how well it does. Read the story about check-in at... more
    • Why Gary? — olds, Thu Jan 10 09:13
    • Re: Facial Recognition TechnologyDaniel Buck, Thu Jan 10 07:15
      Gary, again, you are changing the subject: the entire point of this discussion is on how facial recognition technology doesn't work well with antique photos. And more specifically, how FRT is misused ... more
      • FRT Gary Stover, Thu Jan 10 07:57
        The systems available today can distinguish between identical twins on photos taken years apart. That's why Atlanta Airport doesn't fear terrorist organizations or rogue states using look-a-likes to... more
        • Re: FRT Wayne Sanderson, Thu Jan 10 23:25
          Students of the history of criminology and law enforcement will tell you that this matter came to a head over a century ago and it was settled then in favor or more reliable means of identification.... more
          • Provenance, Provenance, ProvenanceGary Stover, Fri Jan 11 10:39
            There are as many mistakes made over misdiagnosed provenance as there are over mistakes made by experts examining an object. At the same time, provenance on the photo of Wyatt and Bat we've been... more
            • Re: Provenance, Provenance, ProvenanceWayne Sanderson, Fri Jan 11 21:50
              I understand the point you are making, even as you use an example that does more to make my point than yours. The provenance that tends to support the authenticity of an apparent work of an old... more
          • Re: FRT Anonymous, Thu Jan 10 23:26
            I had meant to post a link for those who wanted to see for themselves what Bertillon was. Here it is.... more
        • Re: FRT Daniel Buck, Thu Jan 10 08:10
          Gary, I do not want to belabor this discussion, but here's some reading for anyone interested: https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2018/12/17/should-we-be-worried-about-computerized-facial-recognition ... more
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