Tom Gaumer
I left this out by accident
Wed Aug 28, 2019 08:06
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Jeff

and I know you would miss it! LOL

James Kehoe testimony:

The Sheriff told him (Frank) he would take him to the Sheriff's office to lay off his arms. Frank McLaury said, "You need not take me. I will go." The Sheriff said, Well, come on."

Interesting that Frank believes the Sheriff could take him if necessary. Huh?

  • Forgive me...Jeff Morey, Tue Aug 27 17:03
    Tom, I’m in Michigan and all of my books and papers are down in Tennessee. Where exactly does Behan say Frank McLaury “had agreed to go to his (the Sheriff’s) office”? My Best, Jeff Morey
    • I left this out by accident — Tom Gaumer, Wed Aug 28 08:06
    • Jeff So it can be interpreted to suit each observer of the text. Behan on page 137 and 138 of Turner: Behan leaves leaves Fourth and Fremont with Frank Testifying this way: "I met Frank McLaury... more
      • In other words...Jeff Morey, Wed Aug 28 06:51
        Tom, In other words, Sheriff Behan never says that Frank McLaury verbally, overtly and unequivocally agreed to go to the Sheriff’s Office. That doesn’t make for a very compelling argument that Behan... more
        • Jeff/a compelling argument?....Joyce..., Wed Aug 28 16:08
          We are talking about the frontier. None of the marshals, sheriffs, rangers, ect. attended a police academy at any time. They are working on the street with their nerves and common sense, hopefully,... more
          • Behan did not outrank Virgil EarpWayne Sanderson, Mon Sep 16 20:22
            As has been pointed out before, the legal pecking order of the authority of town law enforcement being superseded by county, which is superseded by Territory/State applies only to those laws and... more
        • Kehoe says it directly. See above.Tom Gaumer, Wed Aug 28 08:41
          Jeff Implicit by it's nature does not allow for things like "overtly" "unequivocal" or "compelling" or "significant progress." Implicit can also be accepted as a possibility or rejected as a... more
          • But...Jeff Morey, Wed Aug 28 13:19
            Tom, Kehoe’s testimony is seriously undermined by Behan’s own testimony. Kehoe claims Behan first confronted both McLaury brothers in front of the Union Market. Behan claimed he first confronted... more
            • I'm aware of the problem but am not awareTom Gaumer, Wed Aug 28 17:58
              Jeff of all the details of the issue and have not studied it as you have. I have several times referred to the opinion that Kehoe's testimony is viewed as completely false by some, especially you. I... more
              • Tom,Jeff Morey, Thu Aug 29 09:01
                Tom, I choose my words carefully. I have never said Kehoe’s testimony was “fake”. I have merely pointed out that Sheriff Behan’s testimony is incompatible with Kehoe’s. I have also pointed out that... more
                • I am not as careful with wordsTom Gaumer, Thu Aug 29 20:05
                  Jeff but I think the meanings are similar enough. Maybe not. I know you never said "fake." It seems to me Kehoe saying Frank agreed to go to Behans office and disarm is very significant if true.... more
                • OOPS!Jeff Morey, Thu Aug 29 15:54
                  Above, I wrote: “After all, Al Turner certainly failed to notice the contradictions between Behan and Turner.” That sentence should read as: “After all, Al Turner certainly failed to notice the... more
            • Jeff/are we to be following.....Joyce..., Wed Aug 28 16:47
              …..this whole scene with measuring tapes or can we accept the casual terminology in conversation? From what I glean from the testimonies of Behan and Kehoe is that Tom was at Bauer's a little ahead... more
              • So...Jeff Morey, Thu Aug 29 08:28
                Joyce, Your way of solving the problem of incompatibility between Behan’s account and Kehoe’s account is to imagine a scenario which no witness testified to. Imagining away problems doesn’t magically ... more
                • Jeff/ insanity?......Joyce..., Thu Aug 29 16:05
                  You clever rascal! How well you apply the final thought in your post....and now I must stay awake considering the application!!! No sleep tonight! Best always, Joyce
                  • Sleep Well!Jeff Morey, Thu Aug 29 17:39
                    Joyce, You get yourself a good night’s sleep. Sweet dreams! In a few moments, they will be putting me back into my Official Wyatt Earp Nutcase Straight Jacket. So, at least for a few hours, this... more
      • Computer problems kept me from finishingAnonymous is Tom Gaumer-me, Wed Aug 28 00:10
        Jeff but I have been beaten up enough by the computer for tonight. Keep Laughing Tom
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