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bob mills for jack and forum
hauptmann and the crime
Sun Jul 16, 2017 05:33

Jack, for me the question isn't, "Is Hauptmann innocent?" but, "What is the level of his guilt?"

Every cop on the case, every newspaper, Jafsie Condon, even Lindy himself assumed the kidnapping was a gang operation, right up until Dudley Schonfeld, the psychologist who couldn't be bothered to interview Hauptmann, nonetheless drew for Wilentz a mental picture of a lone assassin. On that basis alone the prosecution proceeded as if the gang had never existed.

Your statement "...(the state spent a fortune) trying to find somebody else who was also guilty..." is shocking to me. When did the state do this? My understanding is that after Hauptmann's arrest, the case was closed. Before his arrest, they were following up various leads, but not very aggressively. For heaven's sake, they claimed Hauptmann was Cemetery John, yet he was wandering around the Bronx for 2-1/2 years in plain sight and was never even stopped for questioning!

No credible evidence whatsoever places Hauptmann in Hopewell on the night of the kidnapping. Zero. And several witnesses with no ax to grind placed him at the bakery in the Bronx that night. The money? That identifies him as an extortionist, not a kidnapper. The ladder? If Hauptmann built it, it's difficult to understand how this "arrogant German" could have mocked his own skill in court by saying sarcastically "I am a carpenter." And it's even more difficult to understand how a piece of wood from his attic ended up on the ladder, when 19 separate investigations of that attic had failed to notice any missing wood, or why a carpenter with access to all the wood he needed (wholesale) at a nearby lumber yard would incriminate himself by using wood from his own attic.The ransom notes? If he wrote them, that marks him as an accessory to a kidnapping, and kidnapping in 1932 was not a capital fact, it was so commonplace that the press called it the "snatch racket."

Again, no credible evidence places Hauptmann in Hopewell on that night. Credible witnesses, on the other hand, place him in the Bronx.

  • Guilty HauptmannJack, Sat Jul 15 06:45
    BRH was the only one who deserved the chair because in spite of spending a fortune trying to find somebody else who was also guilty, the State never really provided a potential kidnapper much less... more
    • hauptmann and the crime — bob mills for jack and forum, Sun Jul 16 05:33
      • Hauptmann and the crimeJack, Sun Jul 16 13:42
        The ladder puts Hauptmann in the nursery. Do you know how the board from the attic got into the BRH residence basement? He had no idea he was using a board from his house. I agree and he would too... more
        • TLC InvestigationJack, Mon Jul 17 14:43
          They quit investigating the crime because after Hauptmann was convicted, the case was closed. As opposed to Simpson's wife and boyfriend's murders, that case for example is still active although they ... more
          • alibiRichard Sloan, Tue Jul 18 08:33
            I beg to differ with you. A nice looking young man named something like Ehlstrom swore on the stand that he saw Bruno there. The prosecution was unable to impeach his testimony. He was solid as a... more
            • 3/1/32 WittnessesJack, Wed Jul 19 03:44
              You're thinking of Elvert Carlstrom who testified that BRH was at the bakery on March 1 and held his own very well on the witness stand. He did, however, come forward very late with the information - ... more
              • CarlstromRichard, Thu Jul 20 09:24
                Why on earth would or did Carlstrom lie on the stand?! We all know -- or at least suspect -- that Wilentz "saw to it" that a couple of his witnesses gave favorable testimony. Do you think it's... more
                • CarlstromJack, Thu Jul 20 13:08
                  He probably didn't lie, but he was more than likely incorrect on his date. Larson who was with him knows they were at that house the evening and night of 3/1/32 because he remembered seeing the paper ... more
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