Jon Smyth
Re: Solar eclipse of 1207 BC helps to date pharaohs
Sun Nov 5, 2017 08:59
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Marianne Luban wrote:

"It's in the Book of Exodus. Exodus 23:28-30: I will send the hornet ahead of you to drive the Hivites, Canaanites and Hittites out of your way. 29 But I will not drive them out in a single year, because the land would become desolate and the wild animals too numerous for you. 30 Little by little I will drive them out before you, until you have increased enough to take possession of the
land.."


I understand that Marianne, but this sentence in Exodus is future tense - it has yet to happen.

We read it again in Deut 7:20:
"Moreover the LORD thy God will send the hornet among them, until they that are left, and hide themselves from thee, be destroyed."

Once again it is future tense, it has yet to happen.

Finally, in Joshua 24:11, we read:
"And ye went over Jordan, and came unto Jericho: and the men of Jericho fought against you, the Amorites, and the Perizzites, and the Canaanites, and the Hittites, and the Girgashites, the Hivites, and the Jebusites; and I delivered them into your hand.
[12] And I sent the hornet before you, which drave them out from before you, even the two kings of the Amorites; but not with thy sword, nor with thy bow."


Here, the act is past tense, it is part of the Conquest narrative. This is what I am pointing out.

Jon S.

  • Re: Solar eclipse of 1207 BC helps to date pharaohs Marianne Luban, Sat Nov 4 22:52
    Marianne Luban writes: "You can't have the Book of Exodus at the time of Ramesses III, Jon. You are obliged to follow the math of the Bible, at least within some reasonable time frame, when you talk... more
    • Re: Solar eclipse of 1207 BC helps to date pharaohs — Jon Smyth, Sun Nov 5 08:59
      • Jon Smyth wrote: Finally, in Joshua 24:11, we read: "And ye went over Jordan, and came unto Jericho: and the men of Jericho fought against you, the Amorites, and the Perizzites, and the Canaanites,... more
        • Marianne. Read the 4th line of the first book of Joshua. "From the wilderness and this Lebanon even unto the great river, the river Euphrates, all the land of the Hittites, and unto the great sea... more
        • Re: Solar eclipse of 1207 BC helps to date PharoahsRobert Killian, Mon Nov 6 02:01
          Here, I agree with Anonymous,---AND: "The Two Hornet's" timeline would fit well with Exodus in 2448, 1313CJ/BCE, (Jewish) + 131yrs = 1444BCE ('Actual') in the 35th Year of Thutmose III, just 14yrs... more
          • Far too early Robert, Mittani was still in control of northern Syria. There were no Hittites, nor any Akhuwa/Huwe (Hivites), so far south until after the fall of Mitanni, and after the fall of the... more
            • My apologies, the last line should read: If anyone chooses to identify a historical synchronism here, it can only be in the 20th Dyn., at the Late Bronze/Iron I transition. Jon S.
      • Re: Solar eclipse of 1207 BC helps to date pharaohsMarianne Luban, Sun Nov 5 11:38
        Marianne Luban wrote: "It's in the Book of Exodus. Exodus 23:28-30: I will send the hornet ahead of you to drive the Hivites, Canaanites and Hittites out of your way. 29 But I will not drive them... more
        • Jon wrote: "Finally, in Joshua 24:11, we read: "And ye went over Jordan, and came unto Jericho: and the men of Jericho fought against you, the Amorites, and the Perizzites, and the Canaanites, and... more
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