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It's in the book! I thought you read it?
Wed Nov 18, 2009 18:09

Not only is the notebook in the book but I have mentioned it numerous times on this forum. Just because you personally did not know I already talked about it does not mean that I did not do so.

I also never said Soapy "manipulated the gunfight at the OK Corral" The original hint of Soapy in Tombstone at the time of the fight came from Kenny Vail. Bad writing and placement caused some confusion and when asked to clarify his remarks and time-line he outright refused. I posted the "possibility," not the definitive account of Soapy in Tombstone. The details have been slow in coming, but VERY exciting. The new information indicates Soapy was at the Hotel Cosmopolitan when the Earp's were fortified there. Is that just a coincidence? Time will tell. I figure this was likely the time "Texas-Jack" Vermillion, and possibly "Big Ed" burns met.

Cathy, you wrote,
"Or is this something along the line of the mythical letters said to have been written by Si Tanner and in Jeff Smith's possession which, apparently, never existed"
Never did I say I had Tanner's letters. I said Tanner wrote two letters to Steel of the NWMP. Are you implying that Tanner DID NOT write the letters that state Jesse Murphy was the man who actually killed Soapy? I know from your website that you often switch from one belief to the next so that it is not possible to figure out who YOU think killed my great-grandfather.

Then you wrote,
"...because I think most folks tend to be a bit cautious about Jeff's "proof" when it isn't in a public archive."
People here will recall the numerous times I have posted scans of letters and documents for help with deciphering, and name affiliation. I have invited everyone over to my BLOG where I am slowly posting everything I have on my great grandfather. On the far right you will find a box of "categories." Click "artifacts" and you will see the many I have already posted. This is more than most people do and you want to criticize me for it? Again, just because you personally did not know about it does not mean it did not happen.

Jeff Smith

p.s. For those who recall the last time Cathy and I argued here about her stealing my information. For my personal vindication I thought everyone should know that Cathy Spude admitted her guilt and apologized for posting my information as her own, over on my discussion board HERE.

  • Thank you Gay Mathis and Chris Penn...(pics)Jeff Smith, Mon Nov 16 22:06
    Thank you Gay Mathis and Chris Penn for emailing me the information regarding my great-grandfather's (Soapy Smith) time in Tombstone. The Daily Epitaph for January 26 and 31, 1882 as well as February ... more
    • Jeff R. Smith in TombstoneCathy Spude, Wed Nov 18 08:12
      So this proves that "Soapy" Smith was in Tombstone for the infamous gunfight? Do you know how many Jeff Smith's there were in the country in 1882? The 1880 census lists 184 Jeff Smiths, with 25 of... more
      • Does everyone want me to stop? Jeff Smith, Wed Nov 18 09:37
        Yeah, perhaps you're right. I bet Soapy also lied about being there in his own handwriting in his notebook. Boy that Soapy sure wanted us to think he was everywhere and knew everyone...what a crook... more
        • 'Scuse me...Cathy Spude, Wed Nov 18 16:35
          ...if I missed something, but is this the first we've heard that Soapy made a note in a notebook somewhere, now in family possession, that he'd been in Tombstone? And that he manipulated the gunfight ... more
          • It's in the book! I thought you read it? — Jeff Smith, Wed Nov 18 18:09
        • NO! Don't go away!K.t.K., Wed Nov 18 16:01
          You're just now starting to grow on me. What'll I do without you? k
    • LOL!K.t.K., Tue Nov 17 07:17
      And to think, you posted on Texas Jack's board that you would bet against KtK research about Soapy. What a great joke! Keep 'em coming, Jeffy. Kenny
      • Gambling is simple mathmatics...Jeff Smith, Tue Nov 17 07:58
        Your track record of accurate historical research is not trustworthy due to the occasional, intentional false input, therefore it would always be smart to bet against you, which simply means that... more
        • Six months from now you'll accuse me...K.t.K., Tue Nov 17 13:05
          .. of plagiarism on this stuff if I decide to use it. Just about like you did to Peter Brand on J.W. Vermillion. Hundreds of board readers from the last ten years know the truth on that crap. You got ... more
          • Kenny, sharonc, Wed Nov 18 07:02
            IF this Gay Mathias Jeff is speaking of is the one originally from here in my hometown of Samburg TN, she's an A-#1 genealogist and researcher, and her information is always spot on! Gay located my... more
            • Is that you Lou? (nm)SteveM, Fri Nov 20 13:16
            • SharonK.t.K., Wed Nov 18 08:13
              You've missed the point by a mile. All they did was confirm what Peter Brand and I have had for years. I am happy to know about Gay Mathias; thanks. Chris P. and I have corresponded for a few years,... more
              • Hell, I probably missed it by FIVE miles!sharonc, Wed Nov 18 17:41
                Especially since I don't come to the boards very often any longer....Just hit or miss because every time I open either this one or James's from Texas, someone is tearing another person a new one.... more
              • Kenny how's the Morgan bio, coming along?Ed Bentley, Wed Nov 18 10:10
                Several years ago you stated on this forum that Sharon C. was editing your book and that Hickey would put it out. Please tell us how your book is coming along?
                • Who are you?K.t.K., Wed Nov 18 16:04
                  And where have you been? That project was scrapped a long time ago in favor of three or four others. Kenny
          • You are not fooling anyone Kenny (nm)Jeff Smith, Tue Nov 17 13:42
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